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RV, RS or RX?

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:50 am
by Unrested
To anyone who can help, i'm a soon to be Green P-Plater and a devoted Subaru enthusiast. As my interest does fall into the topic of getting on a track, of course my dream car is an STi. Until then however, I need a car to bridge the gap.

So I ask:

Impreza RS, RV or RX?

Or even a Liberty, basically I just want to know which is the most powerful P-Plate legal Subaru!!

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:24 am
by 2coupedup
whatever you can get in an ej25 manual is about as far as you can go...but plenty of little tricks for a slight increase in power, impreza may be lighter than liberty aswell...

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:32 am
by Gannon
What year models are you looking at buying?

The Liberty is in its 5th generation, the Impreza in its 3rd.

An Impreza is gonna be quicker because they weigh less, so going with that...

The RS was the sporty version, with the same basic trim as a WRX, but with a non turbo engine. Some 02-05 models had a 2.5l engine, so if you have the cash, this would be the one to get.

Looking at Carsales.com, they start at around $9000
www.carsales.com.au/subaru/impreza/rs/2.5

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:02 am
by spike
theres a current thread about the franken motor, the most powerful NA engine possible. Check it out if you want to mod

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:13 am
by TOONGA
Unrested wrote: basically I just want to know which is the most powerful P-Plate legal Subaru!!
This seems to be a much asked question amongst the "P platers" on the board.

( I've left the codpiece joke out as well)

Learn how to handle a car safely and competently, before you decide on getting a car that goes really fast or does great burnouts. that way your parents will see you live to give them grandchildren.

Or you could ignore this advice and see if the H6 engined outbacks are legal for you to drive,(if you want a manual one you may have to do it yourself) then we can read about you in the "breaking news" section on Yahoo.

TOONGA

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:23 am
by El_Freddo
What Toonga said ^^^

Pretty much summs up all P platers - me included back in the day!

What they should really be looking for is the most powerful brakes with the best rubber that will give maximum traction - it might be the one thing that saves their neck. You can still get any car into a situation thats outside the control of a driver, and it doesn't have to be a powerful car either.

Best of luck anyway in your search. At least you're looking at a vehicle for a particular reason and not because a friend of a friend has one that tricked up.

Cheers

Bennie

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:28 am
by littlewhiteute
TOONGA wrote:This seems to be a much asked question amongst the "P platers" on the board.

( I've left the codpiece joke out as well)

Learn how to handle a car safely and competently, before you decide on getting a car that goes really fast or does great burnouts. that way your parents will see you live to give them grandchildren.

Or you could ignore this advice and see if the H6 engined outbacks are legal for you to drive,(if you want a manual one you may have to do it yourself) then we can read about you in the "breaking news" section on Yahoo.

TOONGA
A very good piece of advice.

Hopefully taken on board by young drivers.

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:42 am
by Gannon
Also note that any modification to a P plate driven car, even if it fools the police, may allow your insurance company to void your claim. If you run up the arse of a Rolls Royce, this may have a major effect to your wallet, and any future wallets you may own. If you crash and kill or injure somebody, you may be in even more trouble.

What classifies as a modification?
That is up to you and your insurance company to work out. But just remember that they (the multi million dollar company) usually have the last say.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but in the small chance that something bad happens, id rather be safe than sorry

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:04 am
by Unrested
TOONGA wrote:This seems to be a much asked question amongst the "P platers" on the board.

( I've left the codpiece joke out as well)

Learn how to handle a car safely and competently, before you decide on getting a car that goes really fast or does great burnouts. that way your parents will see you live to give them grandchildren.

Or you could ignore this advice and see if the H6 engined outbacks are legal for you to drive,(if you want a manual one you may have to do it yourself) then we can read about you in the "breaking news" section on Yahoo.

TOONGA
I do understand all that, thankyou for your advice. In my defence however, it's very difficult to get an AWD to do a burnout!! :P

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:05 am
by Unrested
Suparoo wrote:What year models are you looking at buying?

The Liberty is in its 5th generation, the Impreza in its 3rd.

An Impreza is gonna be quicker because they weigh less, so going with that...

The RS was the sporty version, with the same basic trim as a WRX, but with a non turbo engine. Some 02-05 models had a 2.5l engine, so if you have the cash, this would be the one to get.

Looking at Carsales.com, they start at around $9000
www.carsales.com.au/subaru/impreza/rs/2.5
Thanks man, i'll be searching carsales for RS's from now on!

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:48 am
by littlewhiteute
We've all been here before, as young male drivers want to do.

30 years ago, 100hp was fast.

Consider that wanting to live should be higher on the list than going fast.

It's a no-brainer really.

Get some years under your belt first.

Smoke

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:13 pm
by olddog642
Well if you just want to make smoke why not go for some thing like this

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Datsun-120y-Delu ... 3cb49dcd3a

and make something like this to go with it

http://www.skylighter.com/how-make-a-smoke-bomb.asp

Cheap$$$$

Hylton:twisted:

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:31 pm
by Silverbullet
TOONGA wrote:This seems to be a much asked question amongst the "P platers" on the board.

TOONGA
Not for me, I can't wait to drive my 81' MY around in all it's 80(?)hp glory :)

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:32 pm
by H-top
It you could get a GenII liberty RX with a Quad Cam 2.5
much cheaper.

The later RS impreza's are only SOHC

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:42 pm
by Gannon
SOHC and DOHC arent much different, they both have 4 valves per cylinder.
The only real difference is the DOHC has a better shaped combustion chamber, but it makes bugger all difference in NA form anyway.

If you want the fastest NA Subaru on a budget and P plate legal, an RS Impreza is the go.

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:12 am
by 2coupedup
Silverbullet wrote:Not for me, I can't wait to drive my 81' MY around in all it's 80(?)hp glory :)
lol add 4wd and 27's probly and probly lookin 60 at the wheels, and i love all 60 of them hehehe...

technical stuff is a way better experience than speed anyday...