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Tie rod hitting my 15" Pug Alloys

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:59 pm
by Kelossus
Hey all

Now that i have my 15" alloys on my L series I have noticed the tie rod rubs against the rim when i fully lock the wheel.

Is this a common drama people have dealt with when fitting the Pug wheels???

I think a 3-5mm spacer should fix the problem but i was wondering what others have done to counter this???

Still have to beat the guards a little more as they rub in a few places.

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:13 pm
by Brumby Kid
Do you have a lift?

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:21 pm
by Kelossus
2 inch lift kit

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:30 pm
by Alex
Has your tie rod been installed upside down?

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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:36 pm
by steptoe
taper surely prevents upside down install ? Not heard of this problem before.

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:38 pm
by Kelossus
Not to sure mate. See attached picture.

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/yeehu

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:50 pm
by Alex
I'm 90% sure I fitted mine upside down once.

And from my very very vague memory it does look upside down in that pic. You'd need to check with someone who can go look at their car or a service manual though.

Edit: the more I look at the photo the more I think it might be installed correctly.

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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:15 am
by nncoolg
I would have said it looks like it is on the wrong side, but I guess they are universal aye, so, yeah - it needs the castlated nut removing and the rod end turning 180 deg.
that will alter your toe adjustment quiteabit though...

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:32 am
by TOONGA
That tie rod is in correctly and it won't go in the other way due to the taper.

A spacer could stop the problem, just how wide are these rims? and what is the offset?

TOONGA

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:40 am
by steptoe
Agree with Julian, as I always recall the tie rod drops out when taper is broken (if you don't use nut to protect tie rod threads)by whacking the BFH on the stubs mount - which tends to have a surface go from round to flat - wonder if its reshaping - evident in the photo - is what is scraping your rims. Both sides or just one , your left hand side?

Spacers between rim and hub not ADR approved. I'd sooner check to see if it is tie rod or hub that hits rim and reshape or trim a little off the rims inside with a file held in correct spot. Nice powder coating - how much per rim ?

The tie rods are left and right handed too in the ? mark shape

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:36 am
by Alex
im still sure i once installed tie rods upside down. I remember because at the same time i was putting 13inch burnout rims on the car and the tierod clashed with the rim.

In this case though i agree with above and would say theyre installed correctly.

alex

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:23 am
by El_Freddo
Kelossus wrote:Not to sure mate. See attached picture.

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/yeehu
This is a right hand side tie rod end. The bend is facing the wrong way. Swap it for a Left hand side unit and you won't have any issues with the tie rod end hitting the rim.

If you had stock 13 inch rims you almost wouldn't be able to put the wheel back on properly!

Cheers

Bennie

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:06 pm
by nncoolg
Yeah, fair enough, must be on the wrong side then...Is it only since you had the suspension looked-at?
Did the subaru rims not rub?

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:37 pm
by steptoe
Got a shot of the other tie rod ?

Well spotted !

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:52 pm
by Silverbullet
steptoe wrote:I'd sooner check to see if it is tie rod or hub that hits rim and reshape or trim a little off the rims inside with a file held in correct spot.
You don't mean with the wheel spinning surely! :o Just make sure you're not near that file when it catches :shock:

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:34 pm
by Kelossus
nncoolg wrote:Yeah, fair enough, must be on the wrong side then...Is it only since you had the suspension looked-at?
Did the subaru rims not rub?

Nah mate pretty sure it was like that before i got the suspension done.

The wheels never rubbed before hand.

Here is a pic of the other sides tie rod.

If i do change them over is it possible that the tie rod will then hit the CV joint on a full wheel lock?
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/54fh8

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:38 pm
by Kelossus
steptoe wrote:Nice powder coating - how much per rim
Called around heaps of places and ended up getting blasted and coated for 50 a rim.

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:50 pm
by steptoe
Just looked at my L Series tie rods ....bad news is it seems to confirm Bennies suggestion - you have left on right, and right on left. I've run 15x6 on it with no issues. It may be since all work has been done and wheel alignment has brought everything back to spec and got things rubbing. Good news is probably don't need to buy newies, could be a good investment though for your new tyres ?

Shouldn't be any CV clearance issues as you get it back to the way it was designed !

$50 a pair ?

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:54 pm
by Alex
A wheel alignment will be necessary after the swap

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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:33 pm
by El_Freddo
Kelossus wrote:Nah mate pretty sure it was like that before i got the suspension done.

The wheels never rubbed before hand.
It had to have rubbed - or you've had the tie rods replaced and the mechanic's done them wrong...
Kelossus wrote:If i do change them over is it possible that the tie rod will then hit the CV joint on a full wheel lock?
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/54fh8
Not a chance, it will be in the factory position as it should be. Here's mine:

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steptoe wrote:Just looked at my L Series tie rods ....bad news is it seems to confirm Bennies suggestion - you have left on right, and right on left.
There was no suggestion - I knew I had it right as soon as I saw the pic - I almost made the same mistake myself. I know my L series well, I don't know why the question of another issue arising if they're swapped though...
Alex wrote:A wheel alignment will be necessary after the swap
It is the usual practise if you want to keep your front tyres for as long as possible :D I'm keen to learn how to do my own, apparently it's not hard.

Cheers

Bennie