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manual immobilizer suggestions...

Post by fredsub » Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:35 am

If the car is parked somewhere more than a day, what precautions do you do?
say for a OBW...
steering lock - yes
well yeah can pull the fuses, but that might be too easy to check.
(have an immobilizer, but been too lazy to put it in,err been trying to trace out its circuit diagram....might take a while yet)
Pull some sensor plug, so its not obvious, which would be the best one?

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Post by Gannon » Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:22 am

Leave a heap of thumb-tac's on the drivers seat
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Post by tex » Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:54 am

Well you could just unplug the fuel pump or even its fuse that way its not to noticeable and they just give up when it wont start, disconnecting starters and even imobilisors won't always stop them. From my experience its best not to aggrevate these youths otherwise you end up with no more than a beaten up shell And police that apparently have more important things to do!

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Post by Gannon » Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:02 am

Yeah pull the fuel pump fuse and replace it with a blown one, then it wont be noticable

Also, if you remove the fuse, the engine will still start, but not for long, it'll maybe run for 5 seconds.
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Post by Subafury » Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:49 am

it may not start at all if there's no primage.
maybe if its the L, put it in the neutural gear between 4wd lo and high, might take em longer to work it out, even if they do get it started.
also you could install a kill switch - its a good idea even with an immobiliser.
thumb tacks sounds like an excellent idea hahaha.
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Post by 90brumby » Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:00 am

or just leave it there and hope it doesnt get stolen thats wat i do
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Post by gx_rex » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:56 pm

If its auto leave it in gear. This happened to my uncle a few years back, car broken into and attempted hot wire but didnt check that it was left in drive.

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Post by FROG » Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:14 pm

gx_rex wrote:If its auto leave it in gear. This happened to my uncle a few years back, car broken into and attempted hot wire but didnt check that it was left in drive.
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KILL SWITCH IMHO YOU CAN GET CREATIVE WITH WHERE YOU HIDE IT :)
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Post by Smokey » Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:55 pm

FROG wrote:KILL SWITCH IMHO YOU CAN GET CREATIVE WITH WHERE YOU HIDE IT :)
I had a VL that everyone though i didn't want. I put 3 switches in line along the fuel pump wiring. Even if they found one and switched it, there are still two more that might need a flick. The combinations start to get too complicated. Had one in the boot mounted upside down beside the rear speaker (sedan), the other two in the car, with one not too hard to find.

I recon a switch between one of the sensors would be good. How would the car handle if you broke the connection for the crank angle sensor? The ECU shuts the engine off right? That would take them hours to find what the cause was. So long as they don't find the wires or switch:)

Gotta agree with Tex though, insure it and keep it simple, otherwise they just trash the thing after getting frustrated. If they do get it started with the usual mobilizer they will either leave it somewhere or right it off. Only when its not insured that you might really want to get into the security. Or if you have poured your heart and soul into it...

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Post by AndrewT » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:59 am

If it's an old carby model with a mechanical dizzy the old trick of taking the rotor button with you always works a treat.
Otherwise cunningly hidden ignition kill switch is great.


Speaking of steering locks, when I bought one of my RX-7's I was wondering why there was a massive bolt right through the floor pan directly under the steering wheel...I worked out it was for securing the 1" chain that I found lying in the boot. Yes they passed the chain through this massive bolt in the floor and up through the steering wheel and used a large padlock.
Reminds me of Mr Bean with his gate-latch on the Mini's drivers door!

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Post by SUBYDAZZ » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:12 pm

I find locking the car has always worked for me.

Also, on my Liberty I know there's a 25mm or so diameter airpipe that goes from just after the AFM to somewhere below the throttle body (maybe PCV valve). With that removed the car will hardly run, may start just but then dies. I take it with me when I don't want people who have my keys borrowing the car. There'd probably be something similar on most late models. Very cheap and easy anti-theft.
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Post by Gannon » Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:38 pm

Just had a crazy idea...

Wire in a 2 position switch that swaps the starter motor wire from the key barrel with the horn, so when a theft tries to start the car,.... THE HORN BLOWS!!! HAHAHAHAAAA
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Post by Ben » Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:41 pm

Insure it, then lock it and walk away safe in the knowledge that if it dissappears you get to go shopping for a new car!

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Post by Cam » Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:49 pm

4wd lever halfway between hi and lo range so no drive? wouldn't take a genius to work that one out, but i have my doubts about some of these ppl...

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Post by El_Freddo » Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:59 pm

Cam wrote:4wd lever halfway between hi and lo range so no drive? wouldn't take a genius to work that one out, but i have my doubts about some of these ppl...
Well, when it happened to me the first time (just after doing a standing launch in a muddy paddock) it scared the sh!t outta me cos i thought i'd broken the gearbox... til a mate put me straight on the neutral position (BIG sigh of relief).
I think someone focused on getting the car outta there will not notice the 4wd lever but may notice the dash lights - could put a switch in that wire to turn those lights off..

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Post by D3V1L » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:01 pm

tasers...in the drivers seats :D....cousin did it in adelaide.....tested on a mate...fried him!!!! never talked to each other again so i dare say it will work :)

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Post by Suby Roo » Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:47 am

D3V1L wrote:tasers...in the drivers seats :D....cousin did it in adelaide.....tested on a mate...fried him!!!! never talked to each other again so i dare say it will work :)

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Nice lol

Or do the old electric door handles trick, Not sure how its done but it should work!
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Post by steptoe » Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:18 pm

On top of my alarm I had steering lock (lock facing down & away) and an auto tranny switch on the safety switch wire.

I've seen a weight lifting gut belt sitting on someones back seat !! get ya head pummelled if you even think of breaking in ?

leave it unlocked, leave console and glovebox open and on display

fit a flat tyre?

disconnect fuel gauge so it reads empty ?

leave ya fuel cap unlocked? and nothing on display

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Post by ChPLAT » Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:00 pm

Gun under the seat aimed up with a solenoid on the trigger connected to the ignition switch :twisted:
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