EA81 engine won't start

jimmyet46 · Post by **jimmyet46** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 2:38 pm

Hi all
I hope you can help me out here

I have a 83 GLF Leone coupe & it will not start.

has spark at the coil & coil lead
has spark at the points ( points are new )
has spark at the plugs
has fuel at the pump
has fuel in the carby
has fuel at the accelerator plunger

You can spray Aero start at it & it still won't fire

what am i missing here?

All help would be greatly appreciated

Thanks
Jimmy

Suby Wan Kenobi · Post by **Suby Wan Kenobi** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 2:49 pm

Have you got the engine loom plugged in? Is the solonoid on the carb opening? Is the ignition timing correct?

MUDRAT · Post by **MUDRAT** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 3:09 pm

What were the conditions in which it stopped running?

jimmyet46 · Post by **jimmyet46** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 3:22 pm

Suby Wan Kenobi wrote:Have you got the engine loom plugged in? Is the solenoid on the carb opening? Is the ignition timing correct?

Thanks for your help

Yes the engine loom plugged is plugged in. I have also changed the solenoid on the carb this carb only has the single solenoid.The ignition timing correct.

All i have done is drive the car then stop it when i got home and thats where it has stayed. the car was easy to start but in time it was getting harder but once it was going it was ok till you put some rev's into it it just leaned out and backfired from the exhaust.

All i have done is changed the points,plugs and the solenoid on the carb which i was told would fix the problem

I have been having a go again as we speak i just a little fire but that is it.

Thanks
Jimmy

Suba · Post by **Suba** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 3:39 pm

The pionts are opening and closing as they should are they .

Mike.

jimmyet46 · Post by **jimmyet46** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 4:07 pm

Suba wrote:The pionts are opening and closing as they should are they .

Mike.

Hi Mike

yes the points are opening and closing as they should.There is spark at the points too.

It Just started to pour rain so i have to stop again for another day.

Next step is to take the carby off & spray some areostart in the manifold to see if it is the carby.

Thanks for your help

Jimmy

MUDRAT · Post by **MUDRAT** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:33 pm

Have you done a compression test on the engine?

It's funny there ain't much that can really go wrong with an EA81 - the only "just stopped" one I saw was an '84, one of the ones with no points. The electronic module that replaced the points had died. Obviously not applicable here!

jimmyet46 · Post by **jimmyet46** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:43 pm

MUDRAT wrote:Have you done a compression test on the engine?

It's funny there ain't much that can really go wrong with an EA81 - the only "just stopped" one I saw was an '84, one of the ones with no points. The electronic module that replaced the points had died. Obviously not applicable here!

Thanks for the reply

I have 'nt done a comp test on it but i will.

The engine has two dry plugs on the left bank & 2 wet plugs on the right bank
( when you are facing the engine from the front )

The whole car has only done 112000 km's from new it's been a one owner car.

Thanks
Jimmy

BaronVonChickenPants · Post by **BaronVonChickenPants** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:58 pm

I had this in mine once, turned out to be a burnt out coil, was still giving a spark but not enough to fire the fuel, replaced the coil and it was all good.

Jordan.

jimmyet46 · Post by **jimmyet46** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 6:03 pm

BaronVonChickenPants wrote:I had this in mine once, turned out to be a burnt out coil, was still giving a spark but not enough to fire the fuel, replaced the coil and it was all good.

Jordan.

Thanks Jordan

I will give that a try tomorrow

Thanks
Jimmy

jimmyet46 · Post by **jimmyet46** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 6:48 pm

BaronVonChickenPants wrote:I had this in mine once, turned out to be a burnt out coil, was still giving a spark but not enough to fire the fuel, replaced the coil and it was all good.

Jordan.

Thanks Jordan

I will give that a try tomorrow

Thanks
Jimmy

coupe · Post by **coupe** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 9:59 pm

Hey mate
Check your point gap by first closing the gap to a slightly
smaller gap if that doesnt work then open them a little more .
After that then change your timing by hand as you crank the motor.
Ive had moments when it was all working but not firing.
It was always one of those two things
Cheers Pete

jimmyet46 · Post by **jimmyet46** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:24 am

coupe wrote:Hey mate
Check your point gap by first closing the gap to a slightly
smaller gap if that doesn't work then open them a little more .
After that then change your timing by hand as you crank the motor.
Ive had moments when it was all working but not firing.
It was always one of those two things
Cheers Pete

Thanks Pete

But if the timing has not been changed when it was running it should be fine.I have changed the point's cap with no change at all.I will try a different coil like Jordan suggested.The spark might be weak under compression.

Thanks
Jimmy

Suby Wan Kenobi · Post by **Suby Wan Kenobi** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:34 pm

You havent inadverdantly knocked a Vacuum line off the manifold when you have been switching the sol on the carb?

jimmyet46 · Post by **jimmyet46** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:42 pm

Suby Wan Kenobi wrote:You haven't inadvertently knocked a Vacuum line off the manifold when you have been switching the sol on the carb?

Thanks for your reply

I had the problem before changing the solenoid i was told by a Subaru place this was the problem (he sold is part made some money ) i still have the problem there is no vacuum line off.

I have got hold of a coil today will try that tomorrow weather permitting.

Thanks
Jimmy

jimmyet46 · Post by **jimmyet46** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 2:43 pm

BaronVonChickenPants wrote:I had this in mine once, turned out to be a burnt out coil, was still giving a spark but not enough to fire the fuel, replaced the coil and it was all good.

Jordan.

Thanks Jordan

I changed the coil turned the key fired first shot.I guess the coil was shot so under compression no spark.

Thanks again

PS: if you need any turbo parts or custom parts made send me a PM will look after you.

Thanks
Jimmy

BaronVonChickenPants · Post by **BaronVonChickenPants** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:01 pm

Glad to help mate, after all, thats why we're all here

I know how fustrating it is with this one, I got stuck for 2 hours in the middle of no where trying to figure it out, finally tried changing it as a last resort after ruling out every other possibility, when it finally fired up I did a happy dance lap around the car

Thanks for the offer, that should come in handy for a project or 2 I have on my list

Jordan.

jimmyet46 · Post by **jimmyet46** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:16 am

BaronVonChickenPants wrote:Glad to help mate, after all, thats why we're all here

I know how fustrating it is with this one, I got stuck for 2 hours in the middle of no where trying to figure it out, finally tried changing it as a last resort after ruling out every other possibility, when it finally fired up I did a happy dance lap around the car

Thanks for the offer, that should come in handy for a project or 2 I have on my list

Jordan.

Hi Jordan

Thanks again for your help it had me baffled as there was spark,fuel strong battery.As you said the spark must be breaking down being too weak.

Just let me know when you are ready with the parts for your projects.

Thanks
Jimmy

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