EA81 dead in its tracks - heads up for others!

[El_Freddo]

Yesterday I sorted an issue on my brumby. The night before I went over a speed bump (not hard either!) and the engine just died.

I managed to get it started again, it idled for about 3 mins then died when I tried to drive it off. Couldn't start it from there.

I thought it was the dizzy module so replaced that with a new one I had ready for this situation. Still no go.

Did numerous checks and it all pointed to the coil. Got a new one. Still no go. Things were pointing back at the module. Replaced the module with a second hand one of unknown condition I had kicking around. BINGO - EA81 was a goer once again!

So in summary:

If your EA81 dies suddenly, check both the coil and the module - if you are suspicious of the coil run a known good one before replacing the module!

Hopefully this thread will save others a few bucks - as I've killed a $75 module that was straight out of the box

Cheers

Bennie

[Silverbullet]

+1 for always keeping spare module with you! if you have electronic ignition. Mine died half way round a left hand turn at some traffic lights, good thing I had enough momentum to finish the turn and ditch it into the gutter
It's worth buying the genuine/known brand units too, they may be more money but are more relaible.

[El_Freddo]

It's worth buying the genuine/known brand units too, they may be more money but are more relaible.

Got the same brand unit (Fuel miester) in Sunnie the Brumby without any issues. It's been in there for two or so years without issue.

Cheers

Bennie

[Suby Spanner]

Regarding coil and module replacement, it's wise to replace in pairs. The secret is in knowing it's called an 'ignition system', and by system it all needs to work pretty close to 100% to function correctly.

All too often I've seen people leave spark plugs too long between changes (our modern fuels are really, really hard on spark plugs) so a spark plug dies. As the plugs age, their gap gets bigger, and as a result the spark voltage increases.... This increase stresses the leads and the coil(s).... and then because the coil is stressed it makes the ignitor/module work harder!!!!

So I see a car come in with a miss fire, replace the failed plug lead, call the owner "it's running but I recommend spark plugs as well"...they don't want to spend the money. Guess how the phone call goes two weeks later?? "The cars doing the same thing! You didn't fix it!!!"

On Falcons, I don't even give them the option, if I'm replacing coil or module, I'm replacing both.

PS: Using a genuine second hand module can be better than new aftermarket (sadly this is the modern world)..... Yep, my shop ute went through two NEW brand name crank sensors within months. I ratted through my parts box, found a second hander and been driving on that for the last 5 years!

[Nubaru]

Its like the EL Falcon dizzy kits come with a coil pack and dizzy to be replaced together, or was that older ED stuff ?? Same I think

[BrisBrumby]

Thanks for the tip, do you have a link to the module? Cheers

[TOONGA]

Thanks for the tip, do you have a link to the module? Cheers

BrisBrumby search for CM417 Ignition Module ebay has them for around 100 dollars repco and supacheap are a little cheaper.

TOONGA

[Subyroo]

Thanks for the tip, do you have a link to the module? Cheers

BrisBrumby search for CM417 Ignition Module ebay has them for around 100 dollars repco and supacheap are a little cheaper.

TOONGA

Are these the same module Toonga?

http://burpengaryautospares.com.au/Igni ... le%20CM417

https://automotivesuperstore.com.au/fuelmiser-cm417

This guy has to be on crack surely!

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Fuelmiser-I ... 4064808095

[El_Freddo]

Are these the same module Toonga?

http://burpengaryautospares.com.au/Igni ... le%20CM417

https://automotivesuperstore.com.au/fuelmiser-cm417

That looks like them!

This guy has to be on crack surely!

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Fuelmiser-I ... 4064808095

Covid tax?? tell him he’s dreaming!

Cheers

Bennie

[TOONGA]

Thanks for the tip, do you have a link to the module? Cheers

BrisBrumby search for CM417 Ignition Module ebay has them for around 100 dollars repco and supacheap are a little cheaper.

TOONGA

Are these the same module Toonga?

http://burpengaryautospares.com.au/Igni ... le%20CM417

https://automotivesuperstore.com.au/fuelmiser-cm417

This guy has to be on crack surely!

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Fuelmiser-I ... 4064808095

Yes they are the Automotive super store is the cheapest but I have no idea on their postage costs

TOONGA

[Subyroo]

BrisBrumby search for CM417 Ignition Module ebay has them for around 100 dollars repco and supacheap are a little cheaper.

TOONGA

Are these the same module Toonga?

http://burpengaryautospares.com.au/Igni ... le%20CM417

https://automotivesuperstore.com.au/fuelmiser-cm417

This guy has to be on crack surely!

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Fuelmiser-I ... 4064808095

Yes they are the Automotive super store is the cheapest but I have no idea on their postage costs

TOONGA

Postage is $9.95 from Castle Hill NSW to Sunshine Coast QLD.

[JackRussel]

Thanks for the tip, do you have a link to the module? Cheers

BrisBrumby search for CM417 Ignition Module ebay has them for around 100 dollars repco and supacheap are a little cheaper.

TOONGA

Are these the same module Toonga?

http://burpengaryautospares.com.au/Igni ... le%20CM417

https://automotivesuperstore.com.au/fuelmiser-cm417

This guy has to be on crack surely!

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Fuelmiser-I ... 4064808095BP

No more $100 on ebay, couldn't handle the competition. The other links are cheaper.

[brumbydan]

G'day Legends,

How did go about swapping the module out of the dizzy?

We are currently stuck at the reluctor wheel.

Cheers

[El_Freddo]

G’day Dan,

You need to gently lever the relict or wheel up with two flat bladed screwdrivers. Once you get it moving it generally comes off easily.

Make sure you reinstall it the correct way around.

Cheers

Bennie