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any progress?

Post by Yarran » Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:34 pm

taza wrote:Thanks TOONGA, that's really helpful. I should try and make a centre diff lock. I'm not currently sure how the centre diff works in our AWD Subies.

With the rear locker I have completed my design and am pretty much ready to get one made. It's just $$$ and time now to do so, then the testing can being :D
so are you mass producing these puppies yet? ha

if so ill take one:cool:
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Post by vincentvega » Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:04 am

yeah right..
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brumbyrunner wrote:And just to clarify the real 4WD thing, Subarus are an unreal 4WD.
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Post by brumbyrunner » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:16 am

vincentvega wrote:yeah right..
Ditto
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Post by thunder039 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:52 pm

i believe the project was abandoned
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Post by Bantum » Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:25 am

Sorry to here nothing came of it ... :(

On another track, I wonder if the new BRZ rear diff could be utilised somehow ?

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Post by taza » Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:51 pm

I did actually finish designing it and had started making pieces on the lathe at work.
Really though I don't see the point in a Subaru. Good front and rear limited slip diffs do an excellent job in a Subie. Anymore and the rest of the car just isn't going to hold up to the task....
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Post by vincentvega » Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:47 pm

If you had ever been in a suby with a locking center and locking rear diff you wouldnt think that way. unstoppable..
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Post by NachaLuva » Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:37 pm

IMO a rear locker would mean needing less momentum so easier on the car. Also,the harshest thing for a CV is lots of wheelspin in the air then come down hard on solid ground. Great way to snap a shaft or CV! A locker would prevent the wheelspin of the lifted wheel ;)

Taza, do you think your design would work? There's lots of people, myself included, who would give their left testicle for a rear locker! :cry:
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Post by El_Freddo » Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:23 pm

taza wrote:Really though I don't see the point in a Subaru. Good front and rear limited slip diffs do an excellent job in a Subie. Anymore and the rest of the car just isn't going to hold up to the task....
Clearly you don't have the real terrain where a locked rear end comes into it's own! Trust me, a subi and lock rear = win
vincentvega wrote:If you had ever been in a suby with a locking center and locking rear diff you wouldnt think that way. unstoppable..
Totally agree!!
NachaLuva wrote:IMO a rear locker would mean needing less momentum so easier on the car. Also,the harshest thing for a CV is lots of wheelspin in the air then come down hard on solid ground. Great way to snap a shaft or CV! A locker would prevent the wheelspin of the lifted wheel ;)
Yep - every 'yota or "real" 4x4 owner with IFS will tell you the same thing, except in these IFS units they shatter the crown or pinion wheel - because they're actually running in reverse all the time!
NachaLuva wrote:Taza, do you think your design would work? There's lots of people, myself included, who would give their left testicle for a rear locker! :cry:
For me - ONLY if it's a manual locker. I want to decide when I need the rear to be locked ;)

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Post by Bantum » Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:53 am

Update : A group of us over on FB have started a crowd sourcing project for the R160 Diff Locker ...

Welcome to check it out : https://www.facebook.com/BantumWorks/

Will post updates on here as well ... :)

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Post by Silverbullet » Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:56 am

If you didn't already know - there was already an FB post ages ago on one of the Subaru group pages, asking to put expressions of interest to this website: http://www.caplocker.com/

Which I did, didn't think much would come of it. Since then though I received an email from them (around January) I think it said they had enough expressions of interest to make it viable and were looking at sample diffs to get the design. Also asking who would be comfortable paying a deposit so they could get the manufacturing going. I haven't seen or heard anything beyond that since then, and in typical FB group fashion I can't find any record of any of this :evil: This is why forums are so much better. You'll just have to trust me :rolleyes: Also the deposit was something like $1k and finished cost close to $3k :shock: But then this is no easy thing they're trying to do, with the kind of work that goes into a project like this I think that is reasonable.
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Post by El_Freddo » Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:39 pm

I'd like to track down an R180 locker and fit that. A little bit heavier but nothing like another idea I had!

I doubt I'd be buying something new like that cap locker. Cool that it's happening or has the potential. If I ever get a newer Subaru I might consider it.

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Post by Bantum » Sat Apr 29, 2017 4:10 am

As far as I know the project you mentioned Sam fell on its arse, the company has no longer any interest in it as the guy who was working on it left / split with them ... ( not sure on all the details )

Just did some sketching for the new diff, will post it here later ... :)

See here : downloads.php?do=file&id=159&act=down

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Post by El_Freddo » Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:52 pm

I gotta say, I take my hat off to you and your ability to draw such accurate drawings like that.

So what's the game plan from here?

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Post by Bantum » Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:12 pm

Matt ( from Subi Oz Lift ) has taken up the reins & is looking to take it to the Harrop mob. Alex ( the engineer ) is assisting in the design aspects & my good self doing some of the sketching / CAD work - more info to be found on the FB Site :

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https://www.facebook.com/R160.Diff.Locker.Project/

Welcome to do the survey too ... !

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Post by Silverbullet » Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:46 pm

Bantum wrote:As far as I know the project you mentioned Sam fell on its arse, the company has no longer any interest in it as the guy who was working on it left / split with them ... ( not sure on all the details )

Just did some sketching for the new diff, will post it here later ... :)

See here : downloads.php?do=file&id=159&act=down

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Oh :( That's a shame, it looked promising too.

Well then time to jump on the new bandwagon - hopefully this one comes to fruition ;)
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Post by Bantum » Mon May 01, 2017 12:03 am

Bit more info has come to light on the Uneek 4x4 situation :

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http://4x4earth.com/forum/index.php?thr ... ade.42098/

Takeovers & acquisitions tend to have that effect on business ... :(

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Diff'd out ...

Post by Bantum » Fri May 26, 2017 7:27 pm

Latest news in - I've pulled apart my 5MT to assess its condition & can report that it looks good ( no major damage ) ... :)

- Oh and I can report that the front & rear diffs are definitely not the same, front is bigger by about 10% - Will post up some pictures later ... ;)

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Post by El_Freddo » Sun May 28, 2017 10:43 am

Yeah the front diff is considerably larger than the rear.

I heard someone worked out that the front diff is/could be fitted with some Dana diff. I don't know the details but I believe they fitted some sort of locker up front. Info was very hard to find to verify this - otherwise I'd be all over this!

Mind you the front LSD is better for onroad use over all in the centre locking L series AWD box - I can easily lift the inner front wheel turning right around roundabouts with a bit of throttle :???: The LSD keeps me moving forward though ;)

I think you'll find that the r180 is much closer to the size of the front diff.

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Post by AndrewT » Sun May 28, 2017 6:20 pm

Yeah the latest update from FB seems to be the guy who runs a VW customisation business already has an R160 locker project underway and expects it to be ready in ~July.
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