R160 Locker project

taza · Post by **taza** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:09 pm

El_Freddo wrote:Yeah but you wouldn't be using it all the time - just when you need to!

The rear CVs hold up ok with a welded so I don't see why the front won't...

My thoughts anyway!

Cheers

Bennie

+1

Phizinza · Post by **Phizinza** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:51 pm

Fronts take so much more stress from angles than the rear because the fronts also turn. Turning puts more angle on them then articulation. I wouldn't be worried about wear from the locker, I'd be worried about snapping the outer CV's race!

taza · Post by **taza** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:37 pm

Well if the rear locker is successful which im sure it will be I will try a front one. That can be my uni project for the future few years

Don't know until we try.

mud_king91 · Post by **mud_king91** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:46 pm

Would these diff locks fit early libs ?

taza · Post by **taza** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:58 pm

mud_king91 wrote:Would these diff locks fit early libs ?

Yes, all Subaru's with R160 diff. Which is all subies unless upgraded , also some WRX's and STI's have R180 diffs or similar.

mud_king91 · Post by **mud_king91** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:04 pm

Sweet might make it a lil better on the paddocks

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:18 am

Phizinza wrote:Fronts take so much more stress from angles than the rear because the fronts also turn. Turning puts more angle on them then articulation. I wouldn't be worried about wear from the locker, I'd be worried about snapping the outer CV's race!

I've thought about this Phiz - and while I agree I think you forget that the idea of a selectable locker is to use it when you need it in situations were traction is at a minimum - thus there shouldn't be any extra stress to the CVs in this situation. If trying to park the subi at the local black top carpark with the locker engaged it's a totally different situation.

I'm willing to sacrifice a CV to find out if they're any good up front

Cheers

Bennie

Phizinza · Post by **Phizinza** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:37 am

I agree to a point. But I'd probably do something stupid like trying to follow my brother in his 4Runner or something like this

Rear should have no problem at all. They handle welded diffs fine except those stubs work harden til they just snap.

So Taza, you've taken into account newer Subaru's have the snap in male driveshafts where as the older ones have bolt in stubs and female driveshafts?

mud_king91 · Post by **mud_king91** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:21 am

A front locker give problems iv had in total 3 ifs 4wds with lockers in the front and the only time i ever had troubles was on full lock if it suddenly got traction or to much power it would shatter cv,s but that happens to anything with a locked "steer" diff... subaru,s are like any other 4wd just smaller

mud_king91 · Post by **mud_king91** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:22 am

Doesnt give*

mud_king91 · Post by **mud_king91** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:25 am

If all goes to plan... what are these lockers gunna sell for and will they be air or electronically engaged ?

taza · Post by **taza** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:51 am

mud_king91 wrote:If all goes to plan... what are these lockers gunna sell for and will they be air or electronically engaged ?

They will be engaged and dis-engage with cable mechanism like the Dual-Range or 4WD leaver found on/in Subarus. I haven't exactly figured out a selector for in the cabin yet.

Prices well, im not really sure. It depends how much they cost to make. But probably only a few hundred. I have been looking at prices of some Auto-Lockers and a few others. I would say very roughly around $400 plus postage. Maybe abit more, depends on how much they cost to make really. Hope this is of some help for people.

vincentvega · Post by **vincentvega** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:54 am

if you can do a locking center for $400 you will sell a LOT of them mate.

Here's hoping..

mud_king91 · Post by **mud_king91** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:02 pm

Ill make my selector but yea tell me when their available

Foghorn · Post by **Foghorn** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:04 pm

I am keen to try one when you get them made

Post by **Alex** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:18 pm

id be keen for my outback also.

alex

guyph_01 · Post by **guyph_01** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:24 pm

I think i'll be having to honor of trying it out once its made:p
Not sure, its all up to Taza, I only hope the diff i gave him help him and was useful to create this master piece

. Oh and if you need anything else let me know:)

mud_king91 · Post by **mud_king91** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:54 pm

Well atleast we will know they,ve survived ultimate punishment

taza · Post by **taza** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:24 pm

guyph_01 wrote:I think i'll be having to honor of trying it out once its made:p
Not sure, its all up to Taza, I only hope the diff i gave him help him and was useful to create this master piece . Oh and if you need anything else let me know:)

I couldn't of done it without the diff. Yes you will have the honor of trying/testing it. I would really like to test it out at the powerlines since there is some really hardcore stuff out there.

The cable for recoverying my hard drive is in the mail as we speak, I should be getting it either today, tomorrow or early next week.

guyph_01 · Post by **guyph_01** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:00 pm

mud_king91 wrote:Well atleast we will know they,ve survived ultimate punishment

Hahahaha, Good one:p Nah, i recon taza should have the first honors to test drive it since he has and is putting all the effort. Just don't flip/roll or dent my car on the rocks:twisted:

Cool, hummm might need to make a custom center console for the cable activated looking lever:)