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taza wrote:Thanks TOONGA, that's really helpful. I should try and make a centre diff lock. I'm not currently sure how the centre diff works in our AWD Subies.

With the rear locker I have completed my design and am pretty much ready to get one made. It's just $$$ and time now to do so, then the testing can being

so are you mass producing these puppies yet? ha

if so ill take one

yeah right..

vincentvega wrote:yeah right..

Ditto

i believe the project was abandoned

Sorry to here nothing came of it ...

On another track, I wonder if the new BRZ rear diff could be utilised somehow ?



Cheers, Bantum ...

I did actually finish designing it and had started making pieces on the lathe at work.
Really though I don't see the point in a Subaru. Good front and rear limited slip diffs do an excellent job in a Subie. Anymore and the rest of the car just isn't going to hold up to the task....

If you had ever been in a suby with a locking center and locking rear diff you wouldnt think that way. unstoppable..

IMO a rear locker would mean needing less momentum so easier on the car. Also,the harshest thing for a CV is lots of wheelspin in the air then come down hard on solid ground. Great way to snap a shaft or CV! A locker would prevent the wheelspin of the lifted wheel

Taza, do you think your design would work? There's lots of people, myself included, who would give their left testicle for a rear locker!

taza wrote:Really though I don't see the point in a Subaru. Good front and rear limited slip diffs do an excellent job in a Subie. Anymore and the rest of the car just isn't going to hold up to the task....

Clearly you don't have the real terrain where a locked rear end comes into it's own! Trust me, a subi and lock rear = win

vincentvega wrote:If you had ever been in a suby with a locking center and locking rear diff you wouldnt think that way. unstoppable..

Totally agree!!

NachaLuva wrote:IMO a rear locker would mean needing less momentum so easier on the car. Also,the harshest thing for a CV is lots of wheelspin in the air then come down hard on solid ground. Great way to snap a shaft or CV! A locker would prevent the wheelspin of the lifted wheel

Yep - every 'yota or "real" 4x4 owner with IFS will tell you the same thing, except in these IFS units they shatter the crown or pinion wheel - because they're actually running in reverse all the time!

NachaLuva wrote:Taza, do you think your design would work? There's lots of people, myself included, who would give their left testicle for a rear locker!

For me - ONLY if it's a manual locker. I want to decide when I need the rear to be locked

Cheers

Bennie

Update : A group of us over on FB have started a crowd sourcing project for the R160 Diff Locker ...

Welcome to check it out : https://www.facebook.com/BantumWorks/

Will post updates on here as well ...

Cheers, Bantum ...

If you didn't already know - there was already an FB post ages ago on one of the Subaru group pages, asking to put expressions of interest to this website: http://www.caplocker.com/

Which I did, didn't think much would come of it. Since then though I received an email from them (around January) I think it said they had enough expressions of interest to make it viable and were looking at sample diffs to get the design. Also asking who would be comfortable paying a deposit so they could get the manufacturing going. I haven't seen or heard anything beyond that since then, and in typical FB group fashion I can't find any record of any of this This is why forums are so much better. You'll just have to trust me Also the deposit was something like $1k and finished cost close to $3k But then this is no easy thing they're trying to do, with the kind of work that goes into a project like this I think that is reasonable.

I'd like to track down an R180 locker and fit that. A little bit heavier but nothing like another idea I had!

I doubt I'd be buying something new like that cap locker. Cool that it's happening or has the potential. If I ever get a newer Subaru I might consider it.

Cheers

Bennie

As far as I know the project you mentioned Sam fell on its arse, the company has no longer any interest in it as the guy who was working on it left / split with them ... ( not sure on all the details )

Just did some sketching for the new diff, will post it here later ...

See here : downloads.php?do=file&id=159&act=down

Ciao, Bantum ...

I gotta say, I take my hat off to you and your ability to draw such accurate drawings like that.

So what's the game plan from here?

Cheers

Bennie

Matt ( from Subi Oz Lift ) has taken up the reins & is looking to take it to the Harrop mob. Alex ( the engineer ) is assisting in the design aspects & my good self doing some of the sketching / CAD work - more info to be found on the FB Site :



https://www.facebook.com/R160.Diff.Locker.Project/

Welcome to do the survey too ... !

Cheers, Bantum ...

Bantum wrote:As far as I know the project you mentioned Sam fell on its arse, the company has no longer any interest in it as the guy who was working on it left / split with them ... ( not sure on all the details )

Just did some sketching for the new diff, will post it here later ...

See here : downloads.php?do=file&id=159&act=down

Ciao, Bantum ...

Oh That's a shame, it looked promising too.

Well then time to jump on the new bandwagon - hopefully this one comes to fruition

Bit more info has come to light on the Uneek 4x4 situation :



http://4x4earth.com/forum/index.php?thr ... ade.42098/

Takeovers & acquisitions tend to have that effect on business ...

Ciao, Bantum ...

Latest news in - I've pulled apart my 5MT to assess its condition & can report that it looks good ( no major damage ) ...

- Oh and I can report that the front & rear diffs are definitely not the same, front is bigger by about 10% - Will post up some pictures later ...

Add : See here : https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipM ... RQYUtVWGNB

Cheers, Bantum ...

Yeah the front diff is considerably larger than the rear.

I heard someone worked out that the front diff is/could be fitted with some Dana diff. I don't know the details but I believe they fitted some sort of locker up front. Info was very hard to find to verify this - otherwise I'd be all over this!

Mind you the front LSD is better for onroad use over all in the centre locking L series AWD box - I can easily lift the inner front wheel turning right around roundabouts with a bit of throttle The LSD keeps me moving forward though

I think you'll find that the r180 is much closer to the size of the front diff.

Cheers

Bennie

Yeah the latest update from FB seems to be the guy who runs a VW customisation business already has an R160 locker project underway and expects it to be ready in ~July.