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Brumby Snorkel

Post by Brumby Kid » Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:34 pm

Ok so I'm Planning to get a snorkel for my brumby.
Unfortunately safari don't make em.
So I'm either going to make my own or convert a ____.
So to make my own is easy on the outside, but have no idea what to do from then on in to the carby. ( I do have an mpfi thingy to play with, will post pics soon)
Or I have heard that some Toyota models can be adapted to fit. Could someone please tell me what is involved in getting one to fit?

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Post by El_Freddo » Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:51 pm

Trial and error - to some extent.

What you're essentially aiming for a is a water tight air intake that's extended to out side the vehicle, typically mounted at or above windscreen height.

So what ever keeps the water out and the air flowing in is what you need. Remove the guard that you want the snorkel to be on and have a look at how and where you can plumb it all in.

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Post by d_generate » Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:27 am

Also make sure it's big enough to let the engine breathe, not that a Brumby needs a massive amount of air lol.
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Post by Gannon » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:26 am

I think Subarino used a snorkel from a Mazda Bravo
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Post by El_Freddo » Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:34 am

Gannon wrote:I think Subarino used a snorkel from a Mazda Bravo
With a Diahatsu oil air filter setup from memory.

My idea for a snorkel on Ruby Scoo is to go with a 3 inch pipe for the EJ22. I think this should be plenty enough considering the exhaust is 2.25 inch cat back... I've just got to work out how to make it all fit, look good and be functional!

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Post by Matt » Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:49 pm

I have made one already for Bianca out of 3" stainless and will be making up another for Claudia when i get time money for it. If your interested i could make up 2? They do work out expensive as the materials are the killer :)
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Post by El_Freddo » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:36 pm

Matt wrote:I have made one already for Bianca out of 3" stainless and will be making up another for Claudia when i get time money for it.
Could you give us a run down about how you did this? Basically what I want to know is if you made it from plumbing pipe first then had it made from the SS when you knew it would work.

My plan is to use some 3 inch pipe and joints to make up my snorkel so that it's functioning. From there I would like to take it an exhaust joint or some place that deals with SS pipe to have it made up properly so it looks the part too.

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Post by taza » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:46 pm

El_Freddo wrote:Could you give us a run down about how you did this? Basically what I want to know is if you made it from plumbing pipe first then had it made from the SS when you knew it would work.

My plan is to use some 3 inch pipe and joints to make up my snorkel so that it's functioning. From there I would like to take it an exhaust joint or some place that deals with SS pipe to have it made up properly so it looks the part too.
Not modify a Safari snorkel or the likes instead?

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Post by El_Freddo » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:53 pm

taza wrote:Not modify a Safari snorkel or the likes instead?
The unknowns of a safari snorkel not to mention the cost are two reasons why I don't want to go down that route. IF I could get to a place that had a selection to try out for size and fit I might think about it, but it'd have to be cheap! Those snorkels are not cheap!!

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Post by taza » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:56 pm

El_Freddo wrote:The unknowns of a safari snorkel not to mention the cost are two reasons why I don't want to go down that route. IF I could get to a place that had a selection to try out for size and fit I might think about it, but it'd have to be cheap! Those snorkels are not cheap!!
Fair enough, the A-pillar on an L is much wider than that of a Forester or Outback.

Ebay has some good snorkels if you search around. you can get them for $100-200, some include kits whihc bits could be used to fit them.

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Post by GOD » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:26 pm

Mild 3" exhaust pipe ftw. Cut the hole in the guard where you want it, sketch (on paper or on the side of the car) the desired shape of the snorkel, maybe include some mounting points, and deliver to your local exhaust shop for fabrication.

You could go for stainless, but mild steel + paint is just as good for a quarter of the cost.

Safari snorkels are great for the vehicles that they're made to fit, but way too expensive if you have to find one that almost fits then frig around modifying it.
El_Freddo wrote:From there I would like to take it an exhaust joint or some place that deals with SS pipe to have it made up properly so it looks the part too.
Shouldn't be necessary to do a dummy version in plastic. Anyone who can bend pipe to fit under a car (exhaust) can bend pipe to fit on the side of a car (snorkel). Simple.

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Post by Brumby Kid » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:28 pm

Search snorkel kit on ebay, there's a guy in woolsheds sa that has different models cheap, might ask if he could measure some and see if they would fit.
Edit: I like that idea ^^^.
Btw why are they black when black attracts heat and we want cold air?
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25" 185r14 Yokahama Delivery Star, light truck tyres
2" Sports exhaust
Rear Aguip step/bar
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Post by taza » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:35 pm

Brumby Kid wrote:Search snorkel kit on ebay, there's a guy in woolsheds sa that has different models cheap, might ask if he could measure some and see if they would fit.
Edit: I like that idea ^^^.
Btw why are they black when black attracts heat and we want cold air?
Who knows, if you went with one like so it wouldn't need to be modified.
You could rotate it slightly so it fits the A-pillar better.
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Rather than one like this.

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Post by Brumby Kid » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:45 pm

Ok so what's the a pillar?
I love the look of the land cruiser snorkels!
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Bianca: 1991 Subaru Brumby
My First / Project car

EA81 Rebuilt by Tony Knight from knight Engines
2" body lift
25" 185r14 Yokahama Delivery Star, light truck tyres
2" Sports exhaust
Rear Aguip step/bar
Liberty seats
"Bianca"
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Dads Car: 02 Impreza WRX STi
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Post by d_generate » Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:38 pm

A pillar is either side of the windscreen....A because it's the first, B pillar is behind the front doors, C pillar on a sedan hold the back window but is the D pillar on a 4 door wagon.

They all hold the roof up and a Brumby only has A & B obviously.
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Post by Gannon » Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:09 am

Brumby Kid wrote: Btw why are they black when black attracts heat and we want cold air?
Because it makes f a difference.

They are black so that they are least distracting to the driver.
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Post by El_Freddo » Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:51 pm

And while black absorbs heat quickly it also radiates it the quickest too. Ever thought why your radiator is black (unless it's alloy)?

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Post by Brumby Kid » Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:59 pm

Ahh ok, dont teach us that at school, interesting!
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EA81 Rebuilt by Tony Knight from knight Engines
2" body lift
25" 185r14 Yokahama Delivery Star, light truck tyres
2" Sports exhaust
Rear Aguip step/bar
Liberty seats
"Bianca"
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Post by El_Freddo » Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:21 pm

Brumby Kid wrote:Ahh ok, dont teach us that at school, interesting!
Not everything's taught at school! Students seem to miss this... until they're out of school and have to learn for themselves about the wider world. I see it every time I'm at a school with student's horizons not being much further than the boundaries of their school grounds and social groups!

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Post by taza » Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:26 pm

El_Freddo wrote:Not everything's taught at school! Students seem to miss this... until they're out of school and have to learn for themselves about the wider world. I see it every time I'm at a school with student's horizons not being much further than the boundaries of their school grounds and social groups!
I have to say though some stuff I learnt in school I never thought I would ever discuss again but at uni some of it has come up in conversation and the funny thing is that I know about it :)

But then with my engineering/comupter maths class I barely know WTF is going on along with half the class..

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