interesting way to setup carbs on an EJ engine...

nncoolg · Post by **nncoolg** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:24 pm

found this while googling : http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewto ... ?p=4882340

Gannon · Post by **Gannon** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:43 pm

I like the use of the turbo manifold on backwards to point the exhaust in a useful direction. Can you work out the manifolds on top of the heads on the EJ20 in the background?

Post by **TOONGA** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:38 pm

That looks like a forester motor in the back ground with lots of stuff stored on it

and a nice setup in the vdub as well

TOONGA

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:59 pm

Yes it looked like a very neat setup with the twin webers.

I was temped in joining to drop Toonga's build thread on there to "enlighten" them. Then add a bit about the wiring cut down that they seem to have some issues with. Kinda funny to read in a way. Those that are really passionate about the air cooled gear seem to be hanging on to the old times so to speak.

Cheers

Bennie

INEEDABEER · Post by **INEEDABEER** » Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:47 pm

I think they look like throttle bodies.

INEEDABEER · Post by **INEEDABEER** » Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:50 pm

Yep they are fuel injection throttle bodies alright.

Post by **TOONGA** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:22 pm

I was tempted to join and ask them what they think of the megajolt ECU system. for 3-400 dollars (ECU and scrounged bits) it looks to be an acceptable way to circumvent the need for a distributor (sacrilege he says) on an EJ motor. As well it is programmable via a computer a laptop running Win98?

Anyone ?

EDIT the same Vdub running

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyW71RGKcpA

TOONGA

nncoolg · Post by **nncoolg** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 5:20 pm

I think the Megajolt is only an ignition controller not a ECU, the megasquirt does both

Post by **TOONGA** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:10 pm

nncoolg wrote:I think the Megajolt is only an ignition controller not a ECU, the megasquirt does both

E= electronic C= control or computer U= unit

But if you read the article he was running the ignition only with the megajolt

TOONGA wrote: it looks to be an acceptable way to circumvent the need for a distributor (sacrilege he says) on an EJ motor.

Im asking ( I suppose I should have made it clear sorry) if anyone has used one to run ignition only to replace a distributor.

If I was going to use MPFI on an EJ I would use a subaru ECU as it is built for the job

TOONGA

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:20 pm

There was more than one manufacturer surely, that had an electronic thing plugged into the hole where a dizzy wasa in previous models. Thinking Ford EF I6 with a unit plugged on the block at dizzy hole, they reverted to one coil & a dizzy with the following model EL as a cost saving measure i think.

Are you thinking aftermarket or use some componentry off a four cylinder to smack on the back of the head ?

I looked at your link (unlike someone else

) I remember someone selling me the idea of this similar set up years ago to get the best out of any old carbed engine - looks promising

Aw, did I see this trigger ring on the EJ in the beetle ??

Now...remembering RatCamper from Finley NSW was in and out of here on his quest for perfection thinking of an EDIS on his EA81 powered Chookpen - may be some info in his posts Jules??

showthread.php?t=18929&highlight=EDIS

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:41 pm

Gannon wrote:I like the use of the turbo manifold on backwards to point the exhaust in a useful direction.

But that exhaust! Namely the muffler/exhaust poking out the back and to the side.

I don't see why they wouldn't run with the factory ECU - other than the fact that they're scared by the wiring loom that has more wiring in it than the rest of the car's wiring loom put together!

Cheers

Bennie

Silverbullet · Post by **Silverbullet** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:10 pm

This retro-fitting of EDIS intrigues me...imagine an EA81 with no dizzy, just a coil pack and 4 short leads...and no more points or dizzy cap to get wet!

Would it be easy to fit? Apart from the custom trigger ring, and what about performance gains? setup right I'm sure there would be significant reliability gains as well?

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:16 am

take simple and make it difficult eh? Four coil over plug coils to die separately, an ECU to fry or get wet, or just play up

You'd likely gain more by leaving your spare and jack at home, toss the stereo and its speakers, unused seating and belts and drive around on $5 worth of fuel at a time

Nice thinking though - be nice if someone in China could sell a conversion kit real cheap to do old Subes

nncoolg · Post by **nncoolg** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:56 pm

this may interest someone... what looks like an EJ distributor for 25 bucks:

http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/sho ... p?t=133974

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:48 pm

ausubaru92 in Bowraville ?? Now, who could that be ??

That dizzy would certainly have had trouble mating with an EA82 cam !

Gannon · Post by **Gannon** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:50 pm

Shhhhh

I have a mate with a Beetle and didnt wanna go with a Subaru engine because of the wiring associated with an ECU

nncoolg · Post by **nncoolg** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:03 pm

...thats assuming it IS an EJ distributor Gannon.... it looks like it may be

Gannon · Post by **Gannon** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:06 pm

I'll make sure it fits before I get too committed, Ive been comparing the photo to the dizzy in the Liberty FSM

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:37 pm

I'll be keen to see if I'm wrong, but the part that slots into the back of the cam, namely the housing is too deep from my memory of that blanking plate on the back of the driver's side cam - unless you need a bracket to mount it to such as the one on the front of the passenger's cam shaft.

Cheers

Bennie

Post by **TOONGA** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:22 am

That looks more like a mazda or laser dizzy

the numbers for the EJ dizzy are

22100 AA460
NO: 3119
TYPE T2T82371A DO2
Mitsubishi Electric Corp Japan

Gannon if your mate wants to use a dizzy the lucas dizzy for the Escort is the one that fits with the least fuss, you must get the matching coil as well or a fiori dizzy (good luck with the fiori dizzy)

TOONGA