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L Series Automatic not engaging

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 4:35 pm
by Booie
I have a 1989 L Series Touring Wagon with auto transmission. When it has been standing overnight or for a few hours it is reluctant to go into DriveSome fiddling around usually gets it going and then it is fine. I only bought the car recently and the dealer won't do anything . I did find the transmission was very low on oil after I picked the car up. Any suggestions?:D

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 4:58 pm
by AlpineRaven
Have you topped up the transmission fluid? (be aware theres two dip sticks on automatic transmission housing - one for diff and transmission)
Cheers
AP

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 5:01 pm
by steptoe
Used to know a used car yard owners wife - :) short story :D who used to fiercely defend used car dealers. The dealer did not make the car, it is pre-loved and likely to have been traded because it was about to cost previous owner, so, if they can limp it in, be offered a few hundred on another used car most likely..someone is gonna come along and buy it. From another angle had many not want to spend on repairs with the excuse being " we're selling it" ....

You may be lucky if it has crapped out coz someone in Brissy is advertising one or mentioned in their posts.
With my only 4WD auto same as yours - the two things that screw into the side of the tranny on the drivers side, at the front of pan, down low, easy to get at, were finger tight, one was, there is also a vacuum unit with a line to it - think it is for kickdown only.

Nulon make an amazing lot of additives , G60 I think for auto trannies about 25 bucks ? may do some amazing things like soften up seals etc. May not hurt to get the pan off, look inside see the colour,any crud, blocked filter and new fluid before adding G60 ?

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 5:02 pm
by steptoe
Hang on, is it a problem physically shifting the lever into D position, or once there, no forward motion ? Mine used to really like a warm up before drivng off

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 6:36 pm
by Booie
Once in Drive no forward movement. Going to park and then selecting 1st or 2nd will get it moving and once it is moving and warmed up it is fine. I have decided to do as you suggest and get the car on a hoist and start digging around. At least it is not as complicated as the modern ones. I will also chase that Nulon product

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 6:43 pm
by Booie
Yes I did top up the the auto with Dexron. and I have found the two dip sticks. We have also had a scrapping noise in the front and we think it is the diff. A dose of Proma MBL8 seems to have quietened it down. I am determined to sort it out as I really like the car

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 6:49 pm
by steptoe
Proma stuff still around ? It is the best fuel treatment I have ever used ! MBL in with the gear oiled diff - never had a stuffed one to try it on. Lucky. Think it is Mitchsj that has a 3 speed auto from an RX auto known as a GLTA

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 7:15 pm
by tambox
Watch the diff oil level, a common fault is when the front seal of the gearbox leaks, it ends up in the front diff, which then causes front diff problems.
Diff oil level high?

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 9:48 pm
by Booie
Yep Proma is still around They have a website and distributors around the place

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 9:55 pm
by Booie
Now thats a clue! Seems like it might be where some of my auto tranny fluid has gone. Although the oil in the diff looks okay. Time to drain them both and maybe whip the pan off the auto. The last L series I owned was a 4wd sedan (bit rare) and I had forgotten how good they were!

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 5:07 pm
by steptoe
:) bought my sedan incomplete from a wrecker, had sat for over a year being shifted about by a forklift. I know the mechanic who was given the job of trying to get it running for the car yard that had it before - he still hates it ! :D :D 99,000 later I am still lovin' it :) though my intention was just to use it as a test bed, pinch the good bits and trash the rest. Must have gained some wisdom there somewhere.....

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 5:14 pm
by Booie
Thanks for all your help on this Much appreciated After about a 40Km run I parked the Suby on a flat surface dived underneath an removed the auto drain plug and left it for an hour or so. Put the plug back and filled up with Dexron 3 and a Nulon additive (6.2 litres according to the manual) Now after about 200K I have about a 90% improvement. Also drained and checked the front diff but the oil was in good condition. Replaced it and added some Proma MBL8 . The poor little wagon had been mistreated obviously in a previous life
Cheers

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 10:12 am
by steptoe
Good to hear and done without need for a pan gasket or filter :)