8 bolt gearboxes. What year did they change?

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8 bolt gearboxes. What year did they change?

Post by Phizinza » Sun May 10, 2015 11:20 pm

So what years did all three different models change over to the 8 bolt gearbox? Thanks
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Post by RSR 555 » Mon May 11, 2015 12:36 am

Pretty sure between 1997 and 1998
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Post by Phizinza » Mon May 11, 2015 9:18 am

The gen 3 Liberty / Outback did in 98. So all Foresters were 8 bolt? And when did the Impreza get the upgrade?
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Post by Venom » Mon May 11, 2015 9:33 am

I put 8 bolts into my sf gearbox when i bolted it to the h6.
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Post by Phizinza » Mon May 11, 2015 9:41 am

Thanks Rhys
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Post by Tigger » Mon May 11, 2015 11:06 am

Hi Phizinza,

The gearbox in my 97 SF Forester had 4 bolts and the gearbox in my 2002 SF Forester had 8 bolts so I am assuming that they changed over during the release of the "Facelift" SF Forester which would have been around 2000 - I am unable to comment on the other models though I am sorry...

I heard from someone that it was Subarus way of trying to solve the weakness in the gearboxes...
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Post by Phizinza » Mon May 11, 2015 1:20 pm

Thanks Tigger. Very helpful
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Post by Point » Mon May 11, 2015 7:56 pm

I had a pre-facelift 99 Forrie that had the later running gear - 8 bolt gearbox etc
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Post by KiwiL » Mon May 11, 2015 8:26 pm

I was under the impression that only the 1997 SF had the 4-bolt and the EJ20J. The 1998 SF had the 8-bolt with the EJ202?

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Post by Tigger » Tue May 12, 2015 7:12 am

Maybe that was when it changed over. All I know is that my 1997 SF Forester had the 4 bolts and my 2002 SF Forester had the 8 bolts. I just assumed the change over happened during the change of shape but it may have been earlier - I am just commenting on personal experience.
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Post by AndrewT » Tue May 12, 2015 3:57 pm

Completely compatible and interchangable either way around anyways.

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Post by Phizinza » Tue May 12, 2015 4:19 pm

AndrewT wrote:Completely compatible and interchangable either way around anyways.
As a whole box, yes... But the internals are different. They have a different centre diff and housing. The reverse idler is larger and further away, the front input bearing is larger and the plate behind the thrust bearing is different (4 bolts instead of 3)

I'm still trying to work out if I can fit a 4 bolt centre diff to the 8 bolt box, but the reason I wanted to know this is so I can buy a new centre diff and backing rear output plate for a 8 bolt box.

Thanks for the help people!
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Post by vincentvega » Wed May 13, 2015 12:12 pm

according to the alldrivesubaroo guys you can. they fit the early centers in their built boxes as they find them more reliable.

You could call them and ask if any mods are involved.
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Post by Phizinza » Wed May 13, 2015 1:44 pm

vincentvega wrote: they fit the early centers in their built boxes as they find them more reliable.
Thank you mate.
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Post by AndrewT » Fri May 15, 2015 1:22 pm

I fitted an early ra sti wrx dccd centre (from a 4 bolt geaebox) to an 8 bolt SF forester gearbox recently. Works fine - I swapped the whole centre diff and housing over, just to keep the dccd housing with holes already in it for the wires.

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