HID Conversion for Brumby

Corax · Post by **Corax** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:28 pm

Hey Subadudes,

Was just looking at flea bay and was wondering if any of the HID conversion kits (for H4's) that are on there are any good? Same question for the HID spotties that are on there, anybody bought some that they can recommend?

Cheers,
Corax.

pimp2plz · Post by **pimp2plz** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:09 pm

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/MARS-Slim-Pack-1 ... 286.c0.m14

these are good

wrxer · Post by **wrxer** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:57 am

i dont have the h4 insert lights yet, but will after brumby is regod. my advice is get the 4300k kit. prob the 3000k kit is better. the lights penetrate better making vision easier. i got some 4300k h1 and 6000k h3 in outback, if you in perth one night you can have a look for yourself

the gumbi brumby · Post by **the gumbi brumby** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:03 pm

this is for the quad headlight brumby... im keen on this mod. would need semi sealed setup then get the hid kit then... i want to do the the center lights frist

wrxer · Post by **wrxer** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:36 am

i reckon some of these, perhaps without the led ring and the h4 hid kit. i reckon these are what i will use
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-PAIR-H4-7-CR ... m351.l1262
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Bi-XENON-HID-KIT ... 286.c0.m14

AlpineRaven · Post by **AlpineRaven** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:26 pm

mate..... get these H4 high and lo all in one that retracts and extends, not separate HID and halogen low beam they're sh¡t! You'll have a beam/glare pattern problems for oncoming drivers.
Cheers
AP

discopotato03 · Post by **discopotato03** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:28 am

I don't know about other states but I'm pretty sure HID conversions are not legal in NSW without engineers certification unless a factory fitted option (ADR compliance) .

Personally I hate the things because they are blinding when pointed at you ie other cars - even the Europen exotics blind you .
As a consequence they have been made illegal period in some parts of the US and it's only a matter of time until someone in a court proves that they contributed to an accident or fatality .

I think the bottom line is that if you need extra lights fit aftermarket ones .
At least your std lights are cheap and easy to fix or replace if they lemon out . I don't think you'll find HID spares at the Woolies at Hervey Bay ...

GOD · Post by **GOD** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:52 am

Mr Potato, while I agree with the theory of most of your arguments on vehicle modification, I would respectfully submit that sometimes it seems you overestimate the significance of those modifications' impacts.

That said, yes, many of the HID kits out there are rubbish, and auxiliary lights will give better results. One vehicle I know with H4 HID high and low would throw intense light over the nearest 20-odd metres, then it was dark past that, as the HID globe wasn't suited to that reflector shape. In other vehicles HIDs work brilliantly (perhaps even too brilliantly, eh disco?)

Dane.

discopotato03 · Post by **discopotato03** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:14 pm

Well I tell you what Dane I'll get 1-300 meters behind you at night in a car with OEM HID lights ie a BMW or a Merc and as it rises and falls on its suspension repeatedly flashing in your eyes tell me how it feels .

The problem is that those that fit them think they are great but presently the majority of cars don't have them so they're not getting their own back so to speak . I don't know about you but in a pack of 50 cars I can easily tell which ones have HIDS because the light is a different colour - more blue than white .

I do countless thousands of miles in work cars all round the clock and much of it out in the sticks on express ways and secondary roads . The cars we get around in are late model Foulcans and Commode Doors which have real good lights but no HID ones . They also don't blind people on low beam like HID ones do .

When you don't care you fit aftermarket HID's , when you do you fit extra lights .

AndrewT · Post by **AndrewT** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:54 pm

That argument doesn't make much sense. HID's are better lights, so fitting them would be better than not fitting them, it's an upgrade. You could put extra lights on but why not just make your existing ones work better?

The ones that are blue are people who've put really high intensity ones in which ends up actually being worse - it annoys other road users and doesn't even light things up as good as the lesser intense ones. The lesser ones are basically white anyway, not blue.
Have a look at Alpine's thread from when he upgraded to HID.

Yeah it isn't legal to install them in cars without projector headlights (like L series, Brumby etc). This is reasonable due to people installing the rediculous blue ones and having the light spread every which way....but really it isn't so bad with the white light ones. This shouldn't really be illegal but unfortunately it is to protect against the silly blue ones.

Not really something to get your knickers in a knot about, but if anyone wants to put HID's in their car please don't go overboard!

AlpineRaven · Post by **AlpineRaven** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:14 pm

Yeah I have HIDs in my Liberty behind projectors, its lot better than standard headlight with standard relectors - had too much glare and it didnt really have very good light output. But when I installed projectors on mine - installed HID then it was worth the upgrade, its 4300k globes trying to make it legal as possible without getting picked up by cops, everyone thinks its normal globes but they're HID.
Cheers
AP

discopotato03 · Post by **discopotato03** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:54 pm

It's not legal to put them in any car that wasn't ADR'd with them no matter what lights you have .
I think some of you people need to read up on the law and headlights , you may be shocked to learn that technically raising or lowering the height of your car (headlight wise) also doesn't cut it .
Years ago some of the manufacturers did diabolical things with front suspension geometry in order to have the cars height place its headlights at the stipulated height to gain ADR compliance .

And another , driving around at nigh with OE or aftermarket fog lights on is an offense in NSW unless there actually is fog or rain . The cops here don't police it but that doesn't make it legal .

fredsub · Post by **fredsub** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:14 am

agree with disco,
hate the bastards.......
even on those newer cars, we don't have many (if at all ) flat pancake roads,
so even cars with the levelers, your approaching them on undulating road, and those lights are constantly flashing and blinding you - the levelers can't keep up I think.

I do like hids in aux lights though, work brilliantly!

as for raising/lowering height, ie suspension, technically lights are supposed to be adjusted.
Did you know the so called "raised suspension" springs is really about loading, or towing a load, which is an option, and which is why
its totally legal.

Wilbur · Post by **Wilbur** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:18 pm

discopotato03 wrote: I don't think you'll find HID spares at the Woolies at Hervey Bay ...

No, but you will be able to find them at Coastal 4x4

AlpineRaven · Post by **AlpineRaven** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:24 pm

Wilbur wrote: Quote:
Originally Posted by discopotato03
I don't think you'll find HID spares at the Woolies at Hervey Bay ...

No, but you will be able to find them at Coastal 4x4

But why would you need to replace the globes - they last for long time, if they start playing up, it'll flash on and off trying to start up but fails or going in funny colour ie. pinkish.. that is when you need to replace them..
Cheers
AP