the 12V temp controller

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the 12V temp controller

Post by steptoe » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:44 am

http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_odkw ... r&_sacat=0

A few of us in here have been tinkering with the above - take your pick of suppliers !
Mine, and Gannons , I think, came with Chinglish destructions, so takes a bit to work them out.

They are made to fit in a rectangular hole of a panel so a rectangular hole saw would be an ideal extra :)

Designed to be able to switch something on or off with not supplied relay, can be set once instructions deciphered, to turn on with a rise or a drop in temp detected.

Also settable to trigger your relay 1 to 10 degrees C after the temp you set - something instructions call "backlash"

Tricky dudes could combine this with a few other control servers to make your own climate control in an old AC Brumby !

I have extended the sensor lead with simple old speaker wire - skinny stuff from chapy stereo as the lead supplied not long enough for my aquarium ( they are sold as aquarium controllers)

On first hook up I was monitoring the air temp changes around me, such a sensitive little sender and readout in 1/10ths of a Centigrade on display.

Also has delay time zero - 10 mins

The rear of the unit has block terminals for wires, seems to be ambidextrous for power hook up. I used the one of the two power terminals next to the switch terminals for earth so a wire link I made links between earth/vehicle ground of the units power supply and closest side of switching terminal gets the earth connection. From there my buzzer (or relay terminal 85) earth gets the other switch terminal for its earth supply while buzzer pos (relay 86) lead joins the units pos supply in the other pos power supply terminal I have nominated pos. Got it ?
Also has a pair of terminals that can be linked either via wire link or put in a nother switch - to lock out any setting changes by fumbling fingers !

Endless possibilities of tinkering with a temp unit so cheap...monitor LPG converters for freeze alert, indicating gas blockage or water loss ...make an anto theft device that requires sensor to hit say 108 C with aid of a match before car will start :) ??

Cheap as chips almost, could add one just for ambient air temp, another for intake air temp. I ran one on the EA82T alloy crossover to observe - forgotten data already :(

A mate could use one on his US clunkers diff that overheats and chatters up mountain climbs :p , reckon he could use a 44 gallon drum full of water in the boot to cool it - using the controller of course !

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Post by ajcmbrown » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:06 pm

So it's a programmable thermo switch? I can already think of a few uses for that.

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Post by Bantum » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:57 pm

Saw this one :

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It looks like it might fit in the pocket to right side of dash ( on a Brumby anyway )

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Pretty easy to wire up too !

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Post by TOONGA » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:31 pm

Bantum wrote:Saw this one :

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It looks like it might fit in the pocket to right side of dash ( on a Brumby anyway )

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Pretty easy to wire up too !

Cheers, Bantum ...
harga pagi khusus?

and an ebay link please?

as the picture is hotlinked to ebay (naughty naughty)


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Post by steptoe » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:40 pm

This rooster Bantum is pretty gifted at picture transfer I've noticed lately :)

Saw them too, just as getting used to the old ones instructions and translation difficulties

harga pagi khusus ? Baik2 saga ?

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Post by Bantum » Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:11 pm

Yeah - its not rocket science really, all you need to do is to right click on an image, copy & paste the link. simples ... :)
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... and an ebay link please ?
Same as one on the first post : or Try this one

Cheers, Bantum ...

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Post by Subydoug » Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:51 pm

Used a few of those at work, well, simillar things with the same button interface. Auto PID tuning is acceptable. Once you get your head around the programming they are ok. Been about a year since I actually messed around with internal settings so I cant remember the slightest bit on how to do it :D.

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Post by steptoe » Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:27 pm

Pid ?

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Post by steptoe » Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:34 am

Trying to get my head around this circuits concept

"Delay protection function.

Under the refrigeration mode, power on for the first time, when the measured value exceeds the set value+backlash value, the machine will not start refrigeration immediately. It will only start after setting the delay time, when the interval of the two adjacent refrigeration starts is longer than delay time, the machine will start the refrigeration at once, otherwise, the machine will run the delay time before launching the refrigeration. The delay time is counted at the instant of machine halt

The delay of heating mode is the same as the refrigeration mode

Instruction: we suggest the equipments that use compressors to refrigerate apply the delay start function, users that do not need delay start function should set the parameter as 0 "

Chinglish ^^^ No think Google translate can help :(

Looks like it is designed to activate its switching circuit every how ever many minutes has been set (ranging from 0 to 10 mins) just to boost things up, over riding any other circuit, just to ensure , a fridge say, dos not get left unloved for more than set time ??
I've set mine at zero and do not get constant switching - operates as I expected. Maybe I should set it to 1 and see if I simply get a 1 minute delay of switching on, not operation of switching on, every minute after switch off ??

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Post by steptoe » Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:40 am

Bantum wrote:Saw this one :

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It looks like it might fit in the pocket to right side of dash ( on a Brumby anyway )

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Pretty easy to wire up too !

Cheers, Bantum ...
This one looks to have two alarm circuits, so could do two stage fans on /off stuff, or two speed.

Just not sure the binding post connections will stay tight in automotive use without some glue jammed in there - same as others I have in use

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