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Post by Gannon » Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:18 pm

Wow,.. why did it stretch and who is paying for it?
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Post by steptoe » Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:21 pm

I'm interested. I thought 'they' had all this sorted when 'they' returned to timing chains instead of belts!! I think I recall some engines have a 'timing chain is stretched' sensor ???
Is it a rude question to ask the price of the completed job or is it a bit embarassing ?

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Post by Alex » Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:33 pm

It's marginally embarrassing.

The chain on my car is not meant to be replaced so vw place it in a crappy spot which has requires the motor and gbox to be removed for replacement. Therefore labour costs are high. It's costing me $2k. However vw are paying half the labour charge so that brings it down to about $1300.

My warranty ran out 6months ago!

All in all, I got the car 4k less than its worth so I'm still ahead. Just unlucky I suppose.

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Post by AlpineRaven » Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:35 pm

Alex wrote:if anyones interested, the VW ended up having a stretched timing chain. Parts had to be ordered from overseas so i'm still waiting, then i'm getting a new timing chain and all tensioners/guides installed.

just as well the chain didnt break, kiss $14ks worth of motor down the drain!

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Stretched!? how can a chain get stretched with tensioners installed? Something arent right!!!
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Post by Alex » Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:00 pm

My VW specialists reckon it's marginally common which is why VW recognise the issue and give reimbursement for it.

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Post by Alex » Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:01 pm

Maybe the chain isn't stretched but a tensioner is dead? You can hear it slapping about if you listen properly.

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Post by WeeGee » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:54 pm

steptoe wrote:I'm interested. I thought 'they' had all this sorted when 'they' returned to timing chains instead of belts!! I think I recall some engines have a 'timing chain is stretched' sensor ???
Is it a rude question to ask the price of the completed job or is it a bit embarassing ?
Its definately not just a volkswagen thing; I work at a "european car specialist" and have seen a few timing chain jobs come through. Certain bmw's have issues aswell as a few models of the mini coopers (they have alot of issues). Most of the time it's just the tensioners (hydraulic) or guides that crap out as the chains themselves don't really "stretch" so much as the links and rollers in them experience some wear (which can be avoided to an extent by regular servicing); you shouldn't have to worry about this in the lifetime of a modern engine... but it is what it is. $1300 is a pretty fair price for a job like that and at the end of the day you don't really have much choice.

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Post by akpv » Sat May 18, 2013 8:14 pm

Gannon wrote:I was gonna make my own thread, and I still might...

I got my $8.99 chinese knock sensor today and installed it
Is this knock sensor still going strong? Was temted to o this route but I needed one pretty quickly so decided to go local. Managed to find a guy on ebay selling OEM (JECS) sensors for $44 shipped. The seller is dirt_devil_racing

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Subaru-WRX-F ... 2323203702

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Post by Gannon » Mon May 20, 2013 1:39 pm

akpv wrote:Is this knock sensor still going strong? Was temted to o this route but I needed one pretty quickly so decided to go local. Managed to find a guy on ebay selling OEM (JECS) sensors for $44 shipped
Still going strong. I haven't had a check engine light since it was installed and the car drives perfectly.


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