Bratgeebah's brake kit update

PoorManzImpreza · Post by **PoorManzImpreza** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 9:12 am

Hey guys,

Is this kit compatible with the USDM XT6 (Vortex with the ER27 flat 6 in it) rear hubs? Were these 5 bolt hubs modelled after those found on the XT6?

wagonist · Post by **wagonist** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:04 am

PoorManzImpreza wrote:Hey guys,

Is this kit compatible with the USDM XT6 (Vortex with the ER27 flat 6 in it) rear hubs? Were these 5 bolt hubs modelled after those found on the XT6?

Yes, it is compatible. In fact its even more compatible because the XT6 alrady has the correct front arms. The rear hub which mounts the disc & wheel is already correct.
In fact, all you should need to do is change the handbrake lever, cables, rear backing plates & rear discs.

wagonist · Post by **wagonist** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:14 am

How's this for a handbrake idea
No mods required to the factory lever.
No mods required to the centre console
No extra holes to be drilled all the way through the floor.

Extra mounts for the cables are required though.

There is no bindage with this setup (ie the cabels aren't on too tight a bend)
Now to figure out how to join the 2 cables together....

Bratgeebah · Post by **Bratgeebah** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:06 pm

Poor mans Impressa, yes the set can go on your xt 6 using your hubs. The hubs were designed around Liberty and my/L series hubs. Only after I had manufactured them did I see my first xt6 hub and found out the two were similar. It makes sense really, it would have saved a lot of work and time if I knew that in the first place.

Wagonist, there is no handbrake cable 'bindage' with the crossbred kit. In fact the cables are bent 'less tight' than they are in a Liberty.
There are a couple of places down here (Melbourne) that can make the cable set you need in one piece. Any length, any ends, should save having a joiner between the two. I think one co. is called speedscreen, I can't remember the other.

Gee

92 brumby · Post by **92 brumby** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:37 pm

ill also take 1x my kit 4 a brumby 92 on the second order im strapped 4 cash at the moment

PoorManzImpreza · Post by **PoorManzImpreza** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:03 am

Bratgeebah wrote:Poor mans Impressa, yes the set can go on your xt 6 using your hubs. The hubs were designed around Liberty and my/L series hubs. Only after I had manufactured them did I see my first xt6 hub and found out the two were similar. It makes sense really, it would have saved a lot of work and time if I knew that in the first place.

Wagonist, there is no handbrake cable 'bindage' with the crossbred kit. In fact the cables are bent 'less tight' than they are in a Liberty.
There are a couple of places down here (Melbourne) that can make the cable set you need in one piece. Any length, any ends, should save having a joiner between the two. I think one co. is called speedscreen, I can't remember the other.

Gee

pardon me, are they similar or functionaly identical? If they differ in height then your adapter that allows the legacy/impreza backing plate to be used won't work as the disc, when mounted, will be too close or too far away from the backing plate depending on the height difference, I know it would be a royal pain if there is a difference between your hub and the xt6 hub height but I for one would be very interested in an adaptor that mated the l-series swing arm to the legacy/impreza backing plate that was fully compatible with the xt6 hub...I'm sure many people in the USA would love to just import that part of the kit and goto the junkyard and grab a backing plate and caliper off a legacy and hub off an xt6 and bolt them on their L-series with a new disc and call it a day..

Bratgeebah · Post by **Bratgeebah** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:37 am

Sorry I didn't respond sooner.
I have only placed a crossbred hub and an xt-6 hub side by side. The height to the face of the hub from the shank that sits against the bearing seemed to be identical. So I assume they are functionaly identical. I would say that they ARE functionaly identical but I have not actually replaced one with the other. The spigot that locates the hole in the centre of the disk to the face of the hub may be different, but from memory it was also the same. I remember being bewildered by the fact that so much effort went into designig the CBP hub, using a Liberty hub and an MY rear drum as patterns for measuring, only to find I had reproduced an xt6 hub. Like I said it makes sense really, why would Subaru reinvent the wheel.
Chris Rogers is the man to talk to though. He was planning to use some xt6 hubs on his wagon. It was his hub that we compared to mine. Problem is he is a couple of days drive away.
Short of that grab an xt-6 hub and a set of verniers and email any measurement you would like me to check.

Gee
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AndrewT · Post by **AndrewT** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:59 am

quick question...

My L series wagon is an offroader. If I get this conversion kit and put WRX Imprezza struts & springs in the front, will this reduce the ride height of the car?
If it does, is it possible to fit Outback struts & springs instead like Liberty owners do to get more height?

PeeJay · Post by **PeeJay** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:28 am

I've got std. Lib springs in mine for now and it seems a fraction higher than before. It's also much stiffer which is nice. My problem is the strut top spacers don't fit in the right way around with the wide lib springs, so I've got a set of GX struts and raised king springs to go in soon, just need to get some strut tops to fit the springs.

AndrewT · Post by **AndrewT** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:19 pm

Okay, I planned to get standard early WRX struts and springs....my only concern was that the ride height be the same or higher. Solong as its not lower I'm happy.

Bratgeebah · Post by **Bratgeebah** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:13 pm

I haven't fitted a lift kit with a brake kit. A mate of mine did and I'm pretty sure he ended up using Impressa stuff. I'll find out if you like. I can get raised ride height springs for 97-02 Forrester and 96-01 Outback, but I don't know if they are like Impressa springs I'll also see if I can get that info. as well. I'd assume the Outback are like Liberty but hopefully the Forrester springs are small at the top like Impressa springs.

Gee

Brumby Boy · Post by **Brumby Boy** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:30 pm

i am looking to use forester struts to get more lift when i buy this kit hopefully buy mid 07 to give me more suspention lift. do you know if this will work and how much extra lift it will give?

Bratgeebah · Post by **Bratgeebah** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 5:37 am

I'm not sure. Brett and some of the guys at the BBQ had Outback struts for more lift/travel in their Libertys'. Perhaps they can help you.

Gee.

steve_rising_sun · Post by **steve_rising_sun** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:29 pm

My son just fitted one of Garreth's kits and I would advise anyone who is doing an upgrade/ repower to invest in one of these kits. The poor old MY and Ls have ok brakes with 13" wheels, once you go to 14" or 15" they are ordinary. Upgrade the power and they are weenie. The choice of wheels is now huge.
The quality of these kits is way beyond any one outside a top machine shop.
Steve

stiute · Post by **stiute** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 2:12 am

I just completed fitting the Crossbred Performance brake kit to my brumby. What an awesome kit! Very simple to fit and extremely professionally fabricated! I would recommend this kit to anyone considering it. Gareth is a great bloke who has designed a quality product. Cheers Gee!

Brumby Boy · Post by **Brumby Boy** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:41 am

Ok with a bit of luck ill be able to afford this kit in the very near future,

Ill be fitting an ej22, L 5 speed and liberty steering rack, id also like to use the L series control arms, so would it be possible to get L series control arms in an my kit?

Cheers,
ian

Bratgeebah · Post by **Bratgeebah** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:16 pm

no problems. That's what I've got in my Brumby. L Series control arms with custom radius rods. Gee

Fury · Post by **Fury** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 11:08 am

I have had my kit in since last years BBQ. Fitting was easy, support from Gareth was teriffic and had no problems. The engineer who has had a look at even commented that he wouldn't have picked it as not being original equipment.
Thanks agiain Gareth.

PS even with my air struts set to 6" ( I have manual overide on my air system) still no probs with anything.
I also have the original handbrake setup, with a join between the 2 cables.

Zefy · Post by **Zefy** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 8:06 pm

even though i couldn't afford the whole kit i still got myself a set of his custom control arms... amazing quality and fit...

i know i'm lacking a strut... i couldn't afford the whole crossbread kit, what makes you think i can afford struts? :P

haha nahhh... i'm getting a set of these... http://www.hotbits.org/v3/main.cfm

i've already had a bunch of people ask me how i made RS brakes and knuckles fit on my 79 brat... always pleased to tell them where!

vidler · Post by **vidler** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:43 pm

ill be up for a kit maybe start of next year... whats the damage on the complete kit again and what bits do i need to supply?

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