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Post by munyac » Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:00 am

I Have a 91 model brumby and was thinking before the conversion takes place i will drive it round for abit.

In the mean time it doesn't have AC. I read some threads on what i need but is their any place that sells these or does anyone here have the bolt ons for what i need to get it running?

Thanks!

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Post by TOONGA » Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:54 am

so you are eventually doing a conversion?

to and EJ setup I take it?

Putting in aircon now will be great for summer, but you will then have to convert your compressor when you go to an EJ motor.

the EJ motors run grooved or serpentine belts, while the E81 motors run V belts.

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Post by sven '2' » Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:54 pm

Be no point ($$$ wise) ahead of a conversion.

A new compressor alone can be $1K+

Buy a fan, sweat it out, and dream of EJ goodness.
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Post by El_Freddo » Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:26 pm

sven '2' wrote:Buy a fan, sweat it out, and dream of EJ goodness.
I've done this for 6 years now... Just need to get the spare dosh together to get the AC pipes made up and then have the gas conversion done on it and it should be apples, and cold.

It's up to you as to what it's worth to you being cool in summer as you'll have to de-gas the system to do the conversion to the EJ compressor ;)

The other way around it would be to work out how to use the EJ compressor on the EA81 with the flat belt. It could be a head ^&*^ but it would save on having to re-gas it again...

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Post by Brumby Kid » Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:28 pm

Bennie,
When i take out my engine,
do i have to degas my a/c system?

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Post by alang » Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:03 pm

Brumby Kid wrote:Bennie,
When i take out my engine,
do i have to degas my a/c system?

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only if you undo the hoses or brake the loop :-D

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Post by Brumby Kid » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:55 am

alang wrote:only if you undo the hoses or brake the loop :-D
So if i kept the system as one, it would be ok?
Is it a big deel de gassing and re gassing?
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Post by steptoe » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:42 am

shift the jack out along with the charcoal cannister, place some anti scratch material like a rag down, get some rope ready then swing the compressor aside into the corner and tie it in place on the flexibility of the hoses, may need to undo a few AC line to body clamp brackets to give more flex, tie it down until reassemble.

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Post by El_Freddo » Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:30 am

Brumby Kid wrote:So if i kept the system as one, it would be ok?
Is it a big deel de gassing and re gassing?
Yes and yes. de-gassing should be done by a professional. Same for re-gassing, so it can be costly...

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Post by RSR 555 » Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:26 pm

If you're planning on doing an EJ conversion, you're still going to need a complete EA kit anyway because when you do the EJ conversion, you'll just replace the compressor and associated engine parts.

I'd suggest you have a look around for a MY Touring or Sports Wagon or MY Coupe from around 1980 through to 1984.
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Post by Brumby Kid » Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:55 pm

You will need a dash with a/c wont you?
Im with the others, do it with the ej in it.
If your needing to swap the dash over to one with a/c vents. Do it with the conversion as it will need to come out for the conversion anyway.

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Post by TOONGA » Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:56 pm

Brumby Kid wrote:You will need a dash with a/c wont you?
Im with the others, do it with the ej in it.
If your needing to swap the dash over to one with a/c vents. Do it with the conversion as it will need to come out for the conversion anyway.

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No the dash is exactly the same the only difference is the AC button.

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Post by Brumby Kid » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:12 pm

TOONGA wrote:No the dash is exactly the same the only difference is the AC button.

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Really? What about the vents for the air to come out of?
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Post by TOONGA » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:25 pm

Brumby Kid wrote:Really? What about the vents for the air to come out of?
exactly the same vents as the ones used for the heater.

If you have a look at this thread you will see how it is done.

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Post by Brumby Kid » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:35 pm

TOONGA wrote:exactly the same vents as the ones used for the heater.

If you have a look at this thread you will see how it is done.

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Ahh, thats why I have seen brumby's without, they probebly wouldn't have had a heater either.:rolleyes:
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Post by TOONGA » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:45 pm

Brumby Kid wrote:Ahh, thats why I have seen brumby's without, they probebly wouldn't have had a heater either.:rolleyes:
all brumbys came with a heater from factory, some were actually fitted with power steering (factory) and aircon as well (aftermarket through the car dealer)

Im still looking for a picture (there is one on the board somewhere) of the aircon button installed on the brumby dash.

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Post by El_Freddo » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:48 pm

RSR 555 wrote:If you're planning on doing an EJ conversion, you're still going to need a complete EA kit anyway because when you do the EJ conversion, you'll just replace the compressor and associated engine parts.
Ah, I thought the AC gear was already in the brumby and it just needed gassing, then the conversion (EJ) comes along and what you you do for that?

So that's where I was looking from!

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Post by Brumby Kid » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:52 pm

Well i have seen brumby's without the vents at all, (in real life too).
So that is strange.
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Post by 1111giles » Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:46 am

TOONGA wrote:all brumbys came with a heater from factory, some were actually fitted with power steering (factory) and aircon as well (aftermarket through the car dealer)

Im still looking for a picture (there is one on the board somewhere) of the aircon button installed on the brumby dash.

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Post by TOONGA » Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:54 am

that's the picture, thanks Giles.

That is the only difference in the dash once the aircon is installed. Unless of course you replace the vent fins that have dissapeared over the years.

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