nissan sr20 brumby

fantapants · Post by **fantapants** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:42 pm

i am starting to save up and plan to put a nissan sr20 in my brumby, with a celica or supra 5 speed and either a hilux or vl turbo diff, motor will be built to at least 350hp, so 350hp in a 980kg car thats rwd, you do the math

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:37 pm

Sorry mate, I'm going to be blunt.

Sounds like a waste of a brumby to me

Bennie

niterida · Post by **niterida** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:10 pm

Sounds like a better idea than an EJ turbo motor to me

Johnny T · Post by **Johnny T** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:49 am

If your looking for something different how about dumping a big block in it.

fantapants · Post by **fantapants** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:10 pm

i am thinking of putting a 5 litre holden motor in

Post by **Alex** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:46 pm

yet another one i'll believe when i see it.

goodluck!

Silverbullet · Post by **Silverbullet** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:10 pm

fantapants wrote:motor will be built to at least 350hp, so 350hp in a 980kg car thats rwd, you do the math

The car isn't built for that kind of power, have fun twisting the doors off the thing!

Also, I have no idea what an SR20 looks like or the gearbox/diff you plan to use, but I can bet absolutely none of it will fit without serious mods to mounting points etc. A big task that's for sure.

Good luck.

niterida · Post by **niterida** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:14 pm

Silverbullet wrote:The car isn't built for that kind of power, have fun twisting the doors off the thing! Also, I have no idea what an SR20 looks like or the gearbox/diff you plan to use, but I can bet absolutely none of it will fit without serious mods to mounting points etc. A big task that's for sure.

Good luck.

pffft - couple of engine mounts and a gearbox crossmember - knock that up in an hour or two.

I reckon its a bloody good sensible choice of engine swap. Just a pity you have to lose the AWD.

And if the car won't handle 350hp whats mine going to be like with 500hp out of the turbo rotary ??

Post by **TOONGA** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:11 pm

could fantapants be trolling?

as the member was selling it showthread.php?p=210609#post210609 or does this member have 2 brumbys?

the definition of fantapants made me giggle by the way

TOONGA

Brumby Kid · Post by **Brumby Kid** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:08 pm

Stick an RB30 in it. Shaved head, cam etc.
If your really keen, stick an RB25 head on it, and or run it on dedicated gas.

Cheers Cam

fantapants · Post by **fantapants** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:58 am

it will happen, its just a matter of time, not sure about rb30 due to being a straight 6 and the length of the motor

NachaLuva · Post by **NachaLuva** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:16 pm

Perhaps an EJ25T might be an easier, cheaper & more effective conversion....something to consider

niterida · Post by **niterida** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:53 pm

Not if he wants to go RWD and not if he doesn't want to cut the chassis rails

And certainly not if he wants 350hp

NachaLuva · Post by **NachaLuva** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:56 pm

niterida wrote: And certainly not if he wants 350hp

What would be the max power you could get out of an EJ25 with the boost turned up, bigger turbo, air intake, 3" exhaust plus chip? I would have thought 350hp is easily attainable...

niterida · Post by **niterida** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:44 pm

Attainable but not easily or reliably and certainly not cheaply.
As much as I am a Subaru fan it pains me to say it but the EJ motors are not that good if you are chasing HP.......................

You could probably get 350hp out of an SR20 just by putting on a bigger turbo and upping the boost.

EJ needs cams, forged pistons and rods, possibly head work etc etc

shuffbag · Post by **shuffbag** » Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:33 pm

i have been considering a sr20 for my rx, when i get around to it.
just not sure about the height of it though, will the hood fit...... dont know :P

nissan stuff is dead cheap compaired to subaru. ive wired both engines using standard ecus and the nissan wiring is so simple. it could be done in 10 minutes

fantapants · Post by **fantapants** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:04 pm

yeah well even if the motor is a bit high, i can a bit of a cowl in the bonnet

1111giles · Post by **1111giles** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:08 am

niterida wrote:pffft - couple of engine mounts and a gearbox crossmember - knock that up in an hour or two.

I reckon its a bloody good sensible choice of engine swap. Just a pity you have to lose the AWD.

And if the car won't handle 350hp whats mine going to be like with 500hp out of the turbo rotary ??

Thought you had dropped that idea ?

niterida · Post by **niterida** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:24 pm

1111giles wrote:Thought you had dropped that idea ?

Yeah well its like this - please sit back and enjoy this thread steal .........

basically I had dropped the idea but then I bought a hatchback Torana in need of a full rebuild. Now as much as I love old muscle cars I love modern handling and performance even better. So I set about trying to find a decent IRS to put under the hatch, with the matching front suspension as well. On the Torana forum a few people had tried this before with Commodore setups but they just don't fit. So I was looking at Jap options and found one that looks like it may be a perfect match for the rear of the car - a 1992 onwards RX7. Now the beauty of this is that it is double wishbones front and rear - the Torana is already double wishbones on the front - bonus. Even better is the front suspension will fit even better than the rear and the track is just about the same as the widetrack Torana A9X option.

So now I am spewing because I had just sold all my RX7 front suspension bits from the ill fated front cut I had

So I price up buying front and rear suspension from an RX7 separatley - gonna cost over $1500, and then I still need to fabricate front chassis mounts and crossmember mounts.

Or I could buy another halfcut and get the front chassis rails that I can use and re-visit sticking the rotary in the Brumby.

So now I'm thinking I have my RS Liberty wagon as a day-to-day car and will have the Torana as the cruiser/RWD fun car for 'Sunday' drives. That leaves me more options to turn the Brumby into a more track oriented car and not worry so much about making it look 'factory'.

So I have been toying with the idea of moving the WRX floor pan back 50mm (its not welded in yet), running the CVs on an angle and giving me 50mm more room for the rotary (or even the EJ if I stay with a Subie). But then I also thought since I am widebodying it to fit the WRX running gear and running a 4 point roll cage in the tray then I could easily run rear mounted radiator, either in the tray or maybe 2 in the guards on each side.

A lot depends on whether I can find a suitably priced half cut, rolling chassis, or separate front and rear suspensions from an RX7 by the time I am ready for either an engine or the suspension. I actually just missed out on a complete car for $4500 - by the time I had rung him (less than 12hrs after the ad came out) it was sold

Although I already have everything here (except exhaust manifold and wiring loom) to build a turbo EJ motor so I am heading down that way as a priority plan, and can always change to rotary later.

Now back to the original thread............

wagonist · Post by **wagonist** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:15 am

The thing I'm waiting to see is the OMG look when they sit the flat 4 motor with box attached next to the inline 4,6,v8 with box attached. Bonnet clearance is not really the issue.

Those who've had a good look under the bonnet to see where everything sits will understand what I'm talking about.

I know someone who fitted a Toyota 1JZ-GTE into a Liberty wagon. There was no way it would ever, or could ever, be gotten signed off as legal.