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oh so glorious...

Post by smoov » Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:20 am

finally the weber is in :twisted:

idles so smooth.

got it rebuilt, rekitted, and rejetted.

Jetting as below with great results:
primart main: 140
seconday main: 135
primary air: 160
secondary air: 165
primary idle: 50
secondary idle: 55

comes on hard, smooth and strong when the secondaries come on, with a marked change in exhaust note :mrgreen:

pics up soon.

total rebuild, service and installation of carby costed me $290 which i thought was fairly reasonable

the guy i went to was a weber expert, and has done a plethora of subaru > weber conversions in sydney, for over 20 years.

with the money spent, Im very very happy with the results

again, cheers to Andrew for the supply of the DGV 32/36 8)


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Post by BlackMale » Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:26 am

Well done she is sounding sweet... she should reallly preform now.
Some vid footage (with sound) is all we need now :P

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Post by tim_81coupe » Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:28 am

I luuurve that sound when the secondaries come on!

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Post by BaronVonChickenPants » Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:58 am

Well done, I'd love to hear some audio as well if you can.

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Post by Kev » Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:26 pm

That sounds great.
I am considering doing the same thing. It is good to see all the jetting sorted by someone else. :wink:

Did you find any pitfalls with the job?

What did you do with all the vacuum hoses?

With the smaller airfilter can you now put a 14" wheel under the bonnet?

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Post by smoov » Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:24 pm

CLICK HERE FOR VIDEO OF WEBER IN OPERATION(4.7mb video with audio)

I highly reccomend this conversion :lol:

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I'd imagine a 13" spare would fit in there... don't quote me though. it'd depend on the type of airfilter housing you decide to use. Not my favourite particular design of airfilter housing. great for on the street, awesome noise coming from it, but i would imagine it would completely suck offroad (pardon the pun :P)


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Engine mods just about complete - 700CCA calcium battery, twin core radiator with twin thermos, MSD Blaster 2, Fresh EA82, and now the weber complements everything nicely 8) Now to tidy the absolute mess that one would call 'wiring' :lol:


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With the absence of the bulky old s.hitachi stock airfilter housing, i decided to reverse the oil filler neck. To those with lifted EA82's, they would know too well that the oil filler cap is in a bitch of a spot... right rubbing on the top radiator hose. Filling up on oil is much easier now.
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Post by grytvikken » Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:35 pm

looks good , sounds good , is it really thirsty or is the fuel economy ok?

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Post by BaronVonChickenPants » Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:43 pm

Agreed, sounds sweet, can't wait to fit mine.

Apparently, if jetted correctly the webers are more efficient on fuel, although it does depend on how heavy your right foot is :twisted:

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Post by tim_81coupe » Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:05 pm

I would totally say the Weber's are more economical. My wagon is as economical now as it was back when it was unlifted and RWD. I have no idea of my jet sizes, only hint I can give is that it drive fine when freezing cold and without a choke, but does blow a hint of black smoke at idle. And you can definitely feel them secondarys!

I've also reversed the filler neck, I prefer it sitting inboard anyway. Seems a silly angle sitting all the way out there in the first place.

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Post by smoov » Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:13 pm

i haven't had the oppertunity to do any fuel figures yet, as I had to do some more tweaking, and, well, the right foot is loving the secondaries!! :P

as I head to canberra tomorrow, I'll fill her up, and i'll and take stats. should be an easy cruise on down.

just to note, I'll be using strictly BP Ultimate 98 unless stated otherwise (due to inavailability)

but just as a quesstimate - the jettings of this weber are rather conservative of this particular tune, so I should be able to see some good stats.

time will tell
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Post by Kev » Sun Nov 20, 2005 7:16 pm

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:20 pm Post subject: oh so glorious...

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finally the weber is in

idles so smooth.

got it rebuilt, rekitted, and rejetted.

Jetting as below with great results:
primart main: 140
seconday main: 135
primary air: 160
secondary air: 165
primary idle: 50
secondary idle: 55


Are any of those jets standard with that carbi?
Which ones did you have to buy?
Cost?

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Post by smoov » Mon Nov 21, 2005 8:48 am

Kev wrote:Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:20 pm Post subject: oh so glorious...

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finally the weber is in

idles so smooth.

got it rebuilt, rekitted, and rejetted.

Jetting as below with great results:
primart main: 140
seconday main: 135
primary air: 160
secondary air: 165
primary idle: 50
secondary idle: 55


Are any of those jets standard with that carbi?
Which ones did you have to buy?
Cost?
i don't remember which jets were standard. most have had to be reduced from the original specs.

i got a carby pro to rebuild it/install it for me, cost me $290. As for jetting prices? i have no idea. sorry.
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Post by Subarooted » Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:58 pm

just a question - would you get more power from a weber carburettor conversion than you would from a standard ea82 mpfi engine?

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Post by smoov » Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:26 pm

good question. i often wondered this...

FUEL STATS - 340km/h from 55L = 17L/km. Dreadful Economy. :( Thats driving to canberra, flat footed though.

Will try driving without activating the secondaries (its going to be hard).


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Post by Fang » Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:53 pm

Tis the nature of a Weber, Alex. If you put your foot down it will drink fuel. I am glad to see I am not the only one :P
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Post by smoov » Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:54 pm

true, true :cry:

do they sound about right for a weber'd '82 though??
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Post by Guest » Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:00 pm

Yeah, but is that 340 kms before or after you've compensated for the diameter of the tires?

I'm averageing around 12L/100kms with the EJ before you take into account the tall tires though . . . so even 17 sounds very high. May as well go and buy a 4500 petrol Patrol with that economy!

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Post by Fang » Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:23 pm

Well its the same as mine - problem is I dont floor it THAT much - I am going to take mine to a tuner with a dyno and get it tuned properly. Yes, yes slow EA82 on a dyno.. I know. I just want to get it right.

A Weber should be more economical (in theory) if you drive and tune it properly.

Mudrat is right - I add 10% for speedo inaccuracy with my tyres. So with you 340+34 = 374 actual kms (ish). I get just over 400km to the tank
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Post by smoov » Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:32 pm

that's with the deficit of about 20% already calculated in.

one thing though, was that the run to canberra was a rather spirited one, with me rarely dropping anywhere under 120km/h, except for a couple of killer hills, which, flat footed in fourth, i still managed to chalk up 110km/h.

Plus its an uphill run to canberra.

Will try to perhaps record a city run, but i know it wont be much better.

Hmmm. 4.5L Patrol..... Hmm.....over 2 tonnes....

no thanks ;)
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Post by stamp_licker » Wed Nov 23, 2005 7:08 pm

mpfi info .i drove 108km's on the speedo,i run 27" tyres so its out,put in 8.9l of fuel back to the full.this was loaded up on the roof& in the back, 2 adults 2 kids highway driving some hills and trying to keep up with a rx.best i got on a trip, similar load was about 540km[speedo out 24" tyres] with about 8l left in the tank.the worst abuot 300[27" tyres].this is pushing a 3spd auto mpfi na ea82.if you can do the maths you'll be able to work the km per litre. my car loves hi-way driving and is shite around town. also the turbo got me about 10 to 12km to a litre ,more power using less fuel. :D
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