27" AT's

Phizinza · Post by **Phizinza** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:08 am

I don't suggest going for M/T's unless you are really seurieus about offroading. I use Kumho 27" M/T's, not very fun on wet bitchumen, and wear quicker then a A/T. When I wear out my M/T's I'm going for A/T's (if I am still offroading the ute by then.) Also I don't think there is much advantage having a M/T tyre unless you have more guts and anything but an open rear diff.

just a few cents from me.

aspro · Post by **aspro** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:42 pm

I have just fitted up a set of Motorway winter treads on my L series. Although its a little smaller than a 27" tyre i reckon they're worth considering.
Availability of Nankangs appears to have disapeared in WA along with many of the other brands. I couldnt find a 27"tyre that was readily available (the only readily available i could find here are Toyo's and BFG's) in WA without spending $200 per tyre.
You can find the thread at showthread.php?t=3284
Cheers,
Aspro

suba88 · Post by **suba88** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:08 pm

I managed to get my hands on a set of Nankangs 27', it was a while ago now. but the best place was from Bob Jane Tmart in Claremont. The guy there was impressed that they were going on a L series wagon. Very helpful aswell. Give them a try. I payed $125 each.

Paul

waggaclint · Post by **waggaclint** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:46 pm

you could try kmart as well they sell nankangs..

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:36 pm

Has anyone looked in to the American "Coopers" 4wd tyre?

I don't know if they make 'em for a 14 inch rim, i've seen their huge ad campaign and it got me wondering if anyone is running these tyres?

If so, are they any good in the wet and offroad? Hwy noise?

Cheers

Phizinza · Post by **Phizinza** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:41 pm

From the ones I've seen on subies at USMB they looks like they are a H/T - A/T hybrid. But I hear they aren't to bad offroad. Nothing like a M/T of cause.

This is what I call a good A/T.
This is a Cooper Discoverer A/T.

Not to flash hot I think.

Fang · Post by **Fang** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:57 pm

El_Freddo wrote:Has anyone looked in to the American "Coopers" 4wd tyre?

I don't know if they make 'em for a 14 inch rim, i've seen their huge ad campaign and it got me wondering if anyone is running these tyres?

If so, are they any good in the wet and offroad? Hwy noise?

Cheers

Yup have them on the car now. I love them - cept they are noisy buggers. I don't think they make the Discoverer STT Radial in 14" anymore though

Good in the wet - and great offroad.

Fang · Post by **Fang** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:01 pm

Phizinza wrote:From the ones I've seen on subies at USMB they looks like they are a H/T - A/T hybrid. But I hear they aren't to bad offroad. Nothing like a M/T of cause.

This is what I call a good A/T.
This is a Cooper Discoverer A/T.

Not to flash hot I think.

This is my Cooper...

http://www.coopertires.com.au/images/4wd_tyre_05.jpg

Phizinza · Post by **Phizinza** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:37 pm

Yeah, but thats a M/T... isn't the name of this thread 27" A/T's?

P.S. Whats the wear life like of those monsters? (vs a normal tyre)

Fang · Post by **Fang** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:52 pm

Well tyre is good enough for me on sand and road as well - but yes - primarily M/T.

Wear isnt too bad - had them going on 2 years now

Phizinza · Post by **Phizinza** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:50 pm

My Kumho M/T's are about one third warn at 7000km - 9000km (unsure as I never made a point of checking my od.) I think thats quite good, but I wouldn't want to drive on the kumho m/t's in the wet much, to slippery as the compound is so hard.

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:31 pm

I've noticed a lot of people saying that the BFG AT's are too hard and not good in the wet... I've been looking at other 4WDs to see what they run and i would say that most have a set of BFG's on them. Is the slipperyness in the wet due to the tyres themselves or the weight of our subaru's? Most of the 4WDs observed are near 2 tonnes (or more, not sure about all weights...) where as our scubie's are near the one ton mark...

Any suggestions about this?

Post by **Alex** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:56 pm

I just went and got some beafy road tyres..205/85/R14 nankang all-season or something..

id have to say they are great on the beach, and offer heaps more traction than my older 185/75/r14 sumitomo's...they have a fairly aggressive tread, so hopefully theyll be ok on the gravel and stuff as well!

Phizinza · Post by **Phizinza** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:09 pm

El_Freddo wrote:I've noticed a lot of people saying that the BFG AT's are too hard and not good in the wet... I've been looking at other 4WDs to see what they run and i would say that most have a set of BFG's on them. Is the slipperyness in the wet due to the tyres themselves or the weight of our subaru's? Most of the 4WDs observed are near 2 tonnes (or more, not sure about all weights...) where as our scubie's are near the one ton mark...

Any suggestions about this?

The reason for this is the compound they are made out of. It's very hard, so it wears slower and is slipperier.

DISCLAIMER: this is just my option, if I am wrong, don't blow the shite out of me...

MUDRAT · Post by **MUDRAT** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:31 pm

I think Phizinza is pretty much on the money there, although factors such as void to contact area and the angle of the cut on the tread blocks are major factors in wear rate, road noise and wet grip.

Phizinza · Post by **Phizinza** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:12 am

But really... M/T's are for offroading. It's just a bonus they go ok on the road..

Wilbur · Post by **Wilbur** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:44 am

The BFG AT's are slippery on anycar. L series are the best and libertys are the worst I've driven with them. The BFG muddies seem alot more predictable.

Phizinza · Post by **Phizinza** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:21 pm

Lightning_Silver_RX wrote:The BFG AT's are slippery on anycar. L series are the best and libertys are the worst I've driven with them. The BFG muddies seem alot more predictable.

I'll have to look at the BFG M/T's and see how hard compound they are.. We have some 32" Desert Duellers on the lux and they are quite hard. Long lasting, but not so great on road. But being 10.5" wide means theres plenty of traction still.

Wilbur · Post by **Wilbur** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:54 pm

If your talking about the 604 bridgestone they are actually soft in comparison to alot of other 4wd tyres. They do give good wear rates and are nice road/sand tyre. Our landcruiser is on its 3rd or maybe 4th set of bridgestones. I've found they are prone to puncture when the tread wears down a bit. Much the same a the nankangs of the same tread pattern.

You won't find BFG muddies in a 27 inch tyre but in a rough equivalent 215/75 r15. They are a light truck build so will most likely be another hard compound tyre.

Phizinza · Post by **Phizinza** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:01 pm

My brother told me they are the ones that the 604v replaced. Don't know their number. Personally I think the bridgestone AT tread is a little "weak". I reckon the Goodyear Wrangler ATR would be better in most cases. Wider spacing between blocks and it has a water groove. But of cause, none of these tyres I am talking about are for 14" rims. But it's pretty obvious what tyre you are going to have if you want a 27" (14"rim) A/T... There just isn't that many to choose from.

My bros 83 wagon with bald 26" (185mm wide) light truck tyres goes pretty good in all terrains. I still stand by my "locking/lsd diffs are more important then tread" way of thinking.

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