27", rims, tyres, lift and scrubbage:)

Shark · Post by **Shark** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:14 pm

Hey guys question man here again:mrgreen:

Spent the last hour reading through this section and have a couple of questions i thought you might be able to help us out with.

If i wanted to fit 14" rims what is the common sized tyre ( 27" ) that people use. Im leaning towards a basic mud tyre.. price depending.

If i go that was what is the best lift combination.. Should i go all body lift or suspension and body or even body and guard chopping..

The reason i ask is i had a discovery that i put larger tyres on and even with a guard chop the tyre rubbed and it drived me insane.

I want the tough look for my future l series but i wanna do the tyre lift combination right..

Any help appreciated as usual..

Marc

Matatak · Post by **Matatak** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:16 pm

4 inch BODY lift

27 inch tyre

DONE

(and an EJ to turn them

)

SuBaRiNo · Post by **SuBaRiNo** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:37 pm

Most go with a 3 inch body lift for 27 inch tyres. There are reasons not to go with suspension lifts. The amount of scrabbing can be effected by the offset of your rims too.

4 inch lift is over kill in my opinion and your really pushing the legal boundaries. Remember 2 inch is legal... anything bigger is meant to be illegal. Before people start going stupid... yes people in WA have got there cars over the pits with 3 inch kits though.

Dave

Fatz · Post by **Fatz** » Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:51 am

3" with 27" nankang super trippers on 14" sunraysias is the combo to go, the n later on go the ej22 conversion

Post by **Alex** » Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:57 am

agreed with above. Try to keep suspension lift to a minimum. Its a pain to change cv boots and joints every 3 months.

Marc, when my car is running again(should be by next weekend) i'll show ya my wagon and exactly wat youll need to do.

Alex.

Wilbur · Post by **Wilbur** » Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:22 am

2 inch body, 3 inch tops. May just touch on full lock on the front, but that can be fixed with a hammer.

whatcharterboat · Post by **whatcharterboat** » Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:48 pm

Has any one else tried this? I got away zero lift, cutting the gaurds and some(OK maybe it was lots) skillfull rubber mallet work. It only rubs on absolute lock and I think a narrower offset rim (like a Scorpion) could have eleminated that too. I think I said before I used sedan rear shocks with King springs on the rear cause I'm always heavily loaded on the beach and it used to scrub without them. Now it doesn't scrub at all. Have 27' super trippers but soon hope to get those more aggressive Hankook RT01s. I like the body sitting low to help reduce roll. Especially if you hit deep ruts at speed in sand and you get the equivalent of a "tankslapper" going on.

A friend just rolled his super high Patrol like that at DI and yes the tide got it.

brumbyrunner · Post by **brumbyrunner** » Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:40 pm

Sure you can get them to fit. I had some 195/70R14 on my L wagon once without modifying anything. But the increase in visability, ramp over, approach and departure angles plus not smashing the underneath of the car as much is well worth it. Even without the 27's.

Shark · Post by **Shark** » Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:44 pm

Well sounds like a plan alex get it ready before the jarrahdale trip... I really like the look of the rt01's for sure..

Had hancooks on one of my last patrols in a 33" size...good tyres and cheap aswell..

Marc

whatcharterboat · Post by **whatcharterboat** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:57 am

Sorry Brumbyrunner. Just everything I read said that you had to lift to fit 27"s. You're the first person I've read that's actually said "Sure you can fit em". I can see the obvious advantages of "lift" in the bush but don't see the need for it on the beach. Thanks.

brumbyrunner · Post by **brumbyrunner** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:10 pm

You're welcome.
Personally, I like the improved visability and ease of getting in and out of the cab that comes with a body lift. I'd still have a lift for 100% road use. The "centre of gravity" change to me is a non-issue.
But it's amazing what you can get to fit if you try. I've got a gold Brumby somewhere with 30" tyres and only 2" lift.

the gumbi brumby · Post by **the gumbi brumby** » Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:09 pm

what off set works best on the brumbys with the 27's on 14's also planing a 2inch lift

whatcharterboat · Post by **whatcharterboat** » Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:31 pm

Hey Got the hankooks today. The tread must be at least 12mm deep. Hope they last. More road noise than the Super Trippers and you can almost feel each knob hit the road but I can't wait to try them on the beach. Let you know how they go. The tread in the road is a little narrower and they don seem to rub at all. Thanks for all your advice.

brumbyrunner · Post by **brumbyrunner** » Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:34 pm

Lookin' good.
The tread blocks are very close together in the middle. Probably be better on sand than mud.

whatcharterboat · Post by **whatcharterboat** » Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:48 pm

While I've got ya there. Is there any easy way to lower the gearing in the box or is the only option to provide more power (meaning a bigger motor). While it it great idling down the hiway at 100k's it really seems to struggle down low. I have a 2" exhaust from the heads back with hot dog half way and a straight though muffler at the back. It revs very freely but has no real torque. I'm sure all you diehard sub drivers know exactly what I mean. Thanks.

What did you to the brumby for power with the 30". The gearing must have been way high.

Shark · Post by **Shark** » Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:25 pm

What did the hancooks set you back... What size are they and are they the rt01's??

whatcharterboat · Post by **whatcharterboat** » Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:32 pm

Hi .

Yer. They are Hankook RT01's and I am sure they are 27 x 8.5. The same as the Hankooks on paper but they look a little narrower and taller. They just rub at the front on the flairs when they didn't before. I don' know how much the RRP is but they cost me less than my Super Trippers. Don't know the RRP of those either. Shop around. The pics don't really do them justice. The RT01's make the old Wild Conquerers look like slicks when you look at them together.

BTW does anyone know of any fibreglass front gaurds (or the moulds to make my own) for a L - series???????????????????

2coupedup · Post by **2coupedup** » Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:56 pm

i have kl71's 27x8.5 on 14's no body lift but 2" strut tops..

brumbyrunner · Post by **brumbyrunner** » Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:10 pm

The gearing problem has been discussed on this forum at great length.
In short;
There are 4 diff ratios available to you. 3.7, 3.9, 4.1 & 4.4.
There are also different gearsets with first gears ranging from 3.6 to 3.1.
And there are 2 low range ratios, 1.2 and 1.6.
Now if you want to spend the time and money it's possible to create a 26:1 crawl ratio but I don't know anyone that's actually done it.

My gold Brumby has a 4.444 diff ratio and a single range gearbox with a 3.545 first gear.
It was not built to go slow....

whatcharterboat · Post by **whatcharterboat** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:45 am

Thanks Brumbyrunner.

I have been reading as much as I can in the old threads. Is there a thread on the 26:1 low range? I can't quite imagine it. Would 5th low be similar to 1st or 2nd high. Its really only the low range I need to change. The motor just wont pull in the really deep sand when you're going slow. On the road is OK I suppose

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