16" tyres

Outback bloke · Post by **Outback bloke** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:44 pm

I am researching some different tyres for the Outback and am looking for suggestions, comments or reports on tyres. I am looking for some thing around a 215x70/16 or a 225x70/16 in an all terrain for now. Or in other words no taller than 725mm OD.

I have been looking at these so far.

Dunlop
http://www.dunloptyres.com.au/TyreDetai ... m=nPerPage

Cooper
http://www.coopertires.com.au/tyres/hp_sport.htm

Cooper
http://www.coopertires.com.au/images/atr.jpg

Bridgestone
http://www.bridgestone.com.au/tyres/pro ... s/d683.asp

Bridgestone
http://www.bridgestone.com.au/tyres/pro ... s/d694.asp

Yokohama
http://www.yokohama.com.au/ourtyres/tyre.aspx?tyreid=72

vincentvega · Post by **vincentvega** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:06 pm

235/60R16

F A T

lots available as they fit suzuki vitaras

and did i mention

F A T

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:01 am

Lots of choices in 215/70R16 range (used to be OEM size for the RAV4), however I think most of the tyres you've mentioned are only passenger construction.

BFGoodrich make their all terrain pattern with light truck construction in 215/70R16.
http://www.bfgoodrich.com.au/index.php? ... _suv&id=74

Matatak · Post by **Matatak** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:04 am

Jack wrote:Lots of choices in 215/70R16 range (used to be OEM size for the RAV4), however I think most of the tyres you've mentioned are only passenger construction.

BFGoodrich make their all terrain pattern with light truck construction in 215/70R16.
http://www.bfgoodrich.com.au/index.php? ... _suv&id=74

now THAT looks lyke a Tyre

but out of the ones u posted BYB-01 i like the look of the Yokohama.

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:21 am

There are mixed reports on 'offroadsubarus.com' about the yokohama A/T II's.

Some people found that theirs wore relatively quickly (ie: 15,000km) while others raved about how wonderful these tyres were and got 50,000km out of them. I dunno if the differences were due to the tyre being under inflated, subjected to aggressive driving, or other factors.

The A/T II's are one of the more expensive tyres available.

Outback bloke · Post by **Outback bloke** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 7:16 am

I am looking for an All terrain now whether it be passenger or light truck. I will be getting some muddies for it down the track before I take it to the gulf next year. Just not yet.

I did think about a 235/65 and it is still on the cards. Although it comes in at around 690mm which is 30mm taller than standard. I am thinking of going around 2" taller than standard to gain an inch of lift. That coupled with inch lift springs and body lift will give me 4inches total lift, which should nearly be high enough.

I won't be buying BFG's. They would have to be the worst tyre that money can buy for use in wet weather.

So far I am leaning towards the Brigdestone Dueler 649. They also come in a 235/70 and 736mm. That is only 3mm taller than the tyres I had on the orange car. I should be able to get them to fit with out rubbing.

legacytt · Post by **legacytt** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:23 am

Interested to hear your opinion of the BFG's I have them in the 215/70/16 so around 28 inch. While I agree they aren't the best in the wet, of the all terrain patterns they are one of the better ones for grip in mud and snow(probably not an issue in QLD). The others are more a glorified road pattern and clog up too easily. In the sand the tread does lead to digging down on takeoff but once up and running they are great and that is without lowering pressures at all. Here in Tas every second 4wd has them so we can't all be wrong, not that I want to get into backing a tyre like a football team situation. LOL.

Lapsed · Post by **Lapsed** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:13 am

I think the cooper atr's aren't a bad tyre. They are a long wearing tyre.

brumbyrunner · Post by **brumbyrunner** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:25 pm

Out of all the tyres in your shortlist, the Bridgesone 694s are the only ones I would buy. Not very aggressive but you obviously want that. They replace the outgoing 693 which have a good rep.

Wilbur · Post by **Wilbur** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:17 am

Really. I don't rate bridgestones offroad offerings. ATR's are good, but so are STT's apparently - 225/75R16 is their smallest though.

cool banana · Post by **cool banana** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:49 pm

Hiya,
I've fitted the Yoko Geo AT11's to my 06 outback on 16" rims.
Did the holland track in wet-ish weather. They didn't let me down. Grip wise they were great. They are too new to be able to comment on wear rates/longetivity, however, they are quite soft when compared to say BFG AT's (using my calibrated fingernail.....) Time will tell...
JMHO
Seeya

vincentvega · Post by **vincentvega** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:59 pm

i LOVE the D693's as an offroad capable road tyre.

I couldnt get them recently (for my mates car) so i went with pirelli scorpion STR's instead. They were excellent on Bribie, and he likes them onroad.

L-Raiser · Post by **L-Raiser** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:01 pm

I wouldnt go for the Dunlop one there.....a friend of mine had em on her Forester, Ive seen em in action, or more 'inactive' action....she was frequently losing grip.

I am looking at the Bridgestone D694 myself on 16's....I hope they perform OK.

Regards,

Karen

Outback bloke · Post by **Outback bloke** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:02 pm

I think it will be the D694 that ends up on there. I can get them at a pretty good price to which helps.

ggvfr · Post by **ggvfr** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:40 pm

I had the Yokohama AT +11's in 215/65-16 on a H6 Outback and they not only wore very quickly (I ditched them at 10,000kms with only half tread left!!) - but I found the sidewalls to be very suspect... my other half destroyed 2 totally, and 1 sufficiently to require replacement, in suburbia.

She didn't even feel that she had run over anything!

I've since fitted General Grabber AT2's (215/65-16) and they've been excellent. They've done some serious offroading on a recent 4x4 training day where they helped Suby (and my partner) go everywhere the larger 4x's went.

Around $200 ea, fitted

Cheers
Garry

MUDRAT · Post by **MUDRAT** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 5:36 pm

I wouldn't go past the BFGoodrich. But you probably already thought I'd say that.

L-Raiser · Post by **L-Raiser** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:09 pm

ggvfr wrote:
I've since fitted General Grabber AT2's (215/65-16) and they've been excellent. They've done some serious offroading on a recent 4x4 training day where they helped Suby (and my partner) go everywhere the larger 4x's went.

Around $200 ea, fitted

Cheers
Garry

.....Dont suppose you have a PIC or a link to a pic of these 'General Grabber AT2's'.....Ive never heard of em...

Kaz

Matatak · Post by **Matatak** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:11 pm

L-Raiser wrote:.....Dont suppose you have a PIC or a link to a pic of these 'General Grabber AT2's'.....Ive never heard of em...

Kaz

i think its in his "My Car" thred he just put up on his Lifted H6 Outback

brumbyrunner · Post by **brumbyrunner** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:07 pm

MUDRAT wrote:I wouldn't go past the BFGoodrich. But you probably already thought I'd say that.

goes without saying....

ggvfr · Post by **ggvfr** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:27 pm

Here's a photo of the tread, although this is a much larger tyre... the tread is identical to the 215/65-16.

And a link to a .pdf brochure with sizes etc. The tyres came out of the US and are sold/distributed through Simex in Melbourne. Hope this helps.

http://www.simex4x4.com/files/97G00ZAB1E/AT2.pdf

They also come with a typically American Mileage guarantee - but I can't remember what it is at the moment

Found another pic, this is the Geolander (my unused spare) vs new Grabber AT2

Cheers
Garry

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