Aaron's 2000 Outback H6

Brumby Kid · Post by **Brumby Kid** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:27 am

wombataaron wrote:Its 28mm of clearance to the bottom of the sump guard

Wow, that is really low!
You need to lift it! Hahaha
I think you mean 280mm, 28cm.

Cheers Cam

wombataaron · Post by **wombataaron** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:28 pm

Brumby Kid wrote:Wow, that is really low!
You need to lift it! Hahaha
I think you mean 280mm, 28cm.

Cheers Cam

Haha durrr me yeh i meant 28cm haha, i just encountered a problem, when driving above 80km/h for a bout 5 mins these 2 lights come on the dash, when i turn the car off they go away until i reach that speed again, wtf is wrong with it?

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purp · Post by **purp** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:38 pm

Is that an ABS warning light? Could be an ABS sensor, that is the only problem I've ever had with ABS, so it is always the first thing I think of...

What is VDC?

taza · Post by **taza** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:53 pm

purp wrote:Is that an ABS warning light? Could be an ABS sensor, that is the only problem I've ever had with ABS, so it is always the first thing I think of...

What is VDC?

ABS is your braking assistance, when the lights on it means its not working. So you will easily be able to lock your brakes

VDC is traction control because its a H6 and auto. Not sure what they both mean, check your user manual. Its odd that it only does it at a certain speed thoughh

Try some googling.

Bodge · Post by **Bodge** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:42 pm

I'm not certain but I think the ABS and traction control both use the abs sensor on the drive shaft.
Hopefully a wire has come loose or wasn't attached properly during install. Maybe the wiring is too short after the lift and needs extending like the brake lines sometimes do?
Best of luck!

FROG · Post by **FROG** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:16 pm

Bodge wrote:I'm not certain but I think the ABS and traction control both use the abs sensor on the drive shaft.
Hopefully a wire has come loose or wasn't attached properly during install. Maybe the wiring is too short after the lift and needs extending like the brake lines sometimes do?
Best of luck!

spot on Bodge the VDC system (Vehicle Dynamic Control) uses the abs sensors and after a lift I would check everything in that area

wombataaron · Post by **wombataaron** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:09 pm

FROG wrote:spot on Bodge the VDC system (Vehicle Dynamic Control) uses the abs sensors and after a lift I would check everything in that area

Any idea what i should be looking for? I looked under the car and everything looked normal, would there be anything visible if i took off the wheels?

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Post by **Alex** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:52 pm

The sensor bolts into the top of the hub. Id just trace the wires to see if anything is abnormal

FROG · Post by **FROG** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:59 am

Also check the tone wheel - the bit the sensor reads , it may have moved a little on installation

wombataaron · Post by **wombataaron** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:22 am

Alex wrote:The sensor bolts into the top of the hub. Id just trace the wires to see if anything is abnormal

I followed the wires back from the ABS unit to where they go through the firewall behind the strut towers and found there isn't much slack in the line, possibly with a bit of movement from the suspension on the road it could be pulling on the line, will try and feed a bit more wire through by unclipping the clip behind the firewall so it can dangle and move abit more, the passenger side one i can't even see cause there is crap over the top of where it goes through the firewall:(

FROG wrote:Also check the tone wheel - the bit the sensor reads , it may have moved a little on installation

Im guessing this part is located behind the wheels?

FROG · Post by **FROG** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:44 am

wombataaron wrote:I followed the wires back from the ABS unit to where they go through the firewall behind the strut towers and found there isn't much slack in the line, possibly with a bit of movement from the suspension on the road it could be pulling on the line, will try and feed a bit more wire through by unclipping the clip behind the firewall so it can dangle and move abit more, the passenger side one i can't even see cause there is crap over the top of where it goes through the firewall:(

Im guessing this part is located behind the wheels?

yep bolts to back of hub
brass looking wheel with teeth

wombataaron · Post by **wombataaron** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:22 am

FROG wrote:yep bolts to back of hub
brass looking wheel with teeth

So if i remove the wheel what will i be looking for if the sensor isn't working properly? Do i have to remove the disc brake assembly to see the hub ....because i don't really have the experience to be removing them:P

Well after alot of scratches and swearing i managed to stretch the line a little looser, then i realised the one i was stretching doesnt even move with the suspension as it goes from the electrical harness and connects to another harness under the car before going across to the hub, durrrrrrr:P

All the lines that do go from the body to the hub are pretty slack still but, i bounced the car as hard as i could while looking under there and i couldn't get it anywhere close to becoming tight enough to cause a problem.

Also lifting the rear has no effect on the abs lines because they run along the sills of the car and go straight into the hub of the wheel.

FROG · Post by **FROG** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:11 am

Wombatron do you have email I can send some pics
if you do pm it to me

NachaLuva · Post by **NachaLuva** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:42 pm

This must be so frustrating for you...hope you get it sorted soon...

wombataaron · Post by **wombataaron** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:14 pm

The lights haven't come back on the dash since last time, strange...Rear springs and wheel alignment is coming on Thursday.
Heres my latest addition:

Will have driving lights sooner or later too.

wombataaron · Post by **wombataaron** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:01 pm

Just got the car back with the rear springs installed, took a tape measure out and measured from the top of the wheel arch to the tops of the tyres front and rear and found the front is 2cm higher in the front then in the back:( HD springs from king springs musn't raise the car if it has self levellers:( drat o well im done with it 2 centimetres isnt gonna kill me.

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:11 pm

wombataaron wrote:Just got the car back with the rear springs installed, took a tape measure out and measured from the top of the wheel arch to the tops of the tyres front and rear and found the front is 2cm higher in the front then in the back:( HD springs from king springs musn't raise the car if it has self levellers:( drat o well im done with it 2 centimetres isnt gonna kill me.

Actually, if you have a look at the front and rear arches you might find that the front arch is actually higher than the rear - this is how it is on my L series so I wouldn't be surprised if subaru have carried this design on to later models.

Use something like the side strip panels as a reference

And really, what's more important is the ground clearance from the lowest point under the car! To get a good idea of what this might be you really need to do a before and after measurement...

Cheers

Bennie

taza · Post by **taza** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:52 pm

El_Freddo wrote:And really, what's more important is the ground clearance from the lowest point under the car! To get a good idea of what this might be you really need to do a before and after measurement...

Im 99% sure a standard stock gen 3 Outback is 190mm at the lowest point.

I reckon you would have somewhere around 330mm which is just insane!!! and awesome

I have 282mm at my lowest point on the foz with my combination of lift.

NachaLuva · Post by **NachaLuva** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:05 pm

yeah the wheel arches can be very deceptive. You can stand off to the side with it on a flat level road, looking at the sills will give you a rough idea how nose up or down it is.

My rear sill is slightly lower than the front, bit annoying but its not much.

RSR 555 · Post by **RSR 555** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:05 pm

wombataaron wrote:

What ever you do, don't drive to Geraldton WA like this.. I got a lovely $100 fine on our way to Exmouth

Apparently someone could get hurt by them if you hit them.. I said to the cop "I think the rods will be the least of his worry" pointing at the ally bullbar.. He didn't see the funny side.