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Hazey's Brumby.

Post by Hazey » Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:47 pm

Now that I've got some time up my sleeve I thought I'd do a thread on my ute.
We'll start at the beginning, like all good stories should.

Back in September I woke up on a mate's couch after consuming a great deal of beverages (that night is a tale in itself, but we're talking about the Brumby now) and cracked it when my daily driver Corolla refused to start. Said mate's brother threw me the keys to his '89 Brumby (December '88 build) and said "have it for as long as you need, I've bought another ute and this one just keeps the garden gnomes company at the moment."
The drive home should have only taken fifteen minutes. I arrived home three hours later with the biggest smile on my face. I was in love with Subarus! This thing had so many fascinating quirks- the sports car-esque doors with no window frames, the spare tire was under the bonnet and of course that unmistakable Boxer rumble.
About a week later the owner gave me a call to make the sure the ute was behaving itself, and while on the subject he offered to sell it to me for half of what he had been asking for it everywhere else. I'd always wanted a ute, but couldn't justify owning two full size cars on my income (my other car is an LS1 Kingswood project) so that ticked a few boxes. On top of that, the Corolla was in such a sorry state to the point where I'd be better off buying another car. A deal was made and I was the proud owner of my first Subaru.
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The surprises kept coming- in the owner's manual came the service book, which had been filled out for nearly all of it's 175,000kms by a Subaru dealer. Sweet! That gave me the confidence that it had been looked after mechanically quite well. It was even a "Six Star Service" car (whatever that means) because it had some cool mint condition stickers from the 80s in there as well. Not sure whether to put them on or give to someone who's doing a concourse resto. Rust wise it was very clean, save for some front panels that appear to have copped some damage, but no biggie. Under the tonneau was the original bullbar, which I could either slap back on or give it a new home.
Originally, I had grand plans to turn it into a tarmac terror- coilovers, EJ20T and some grippy low profile rubber. I had a drive of a GC8 WRX a few months back and loved how well it handled and went.
But then I took it offroad for the first time...
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What can I say- even with the shitty car tyres it was lumped with, it's gotten into some pretty hairy places and back out again. After two months of ownership I'm still yet to get it stuck or bogged, touch wood. That being said, a lift and some 27" tyres on 14s couldn't do it any wrong.
So the Rex ute idea was canned. The plan now is to make it even more capable offroad, and perhaps bump up the comfort level inside a bit. I'm mad on car audio and comms (UHFs, scanners etc.) so I'll be factoring in something there. Just yesterday I stumbled across a Leone in a local wreckers sporting power steering and A/C. Jackpot! That'll happen once I obtain a workshop manual and nut out what exactly needs to be done. Engine wise, I'm going to persist with the EA81 for the time being, perhaps with a Weber to wake it up some. Although I'd love an extra gear, AWD and a lockable centre diff. Dont like my chances though.
There you have it. I'm interested to hear your thoughts and suggestions, as I'm sure you guys know a tad more than I do about these rigs.

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Post by TOONGA » Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:03 pm

welcome to the board Hazey

the gregorys manual is here in PDF format

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and you can still go the EJ motor route just use an EJ25 or EJ22 single cam motor

just do a search on the board and you will see how many of us have done it or are still doing a conversion

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Post by yarney » Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:10 pm

Welcome to the subie family:)

Good looking Brumby there.

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Post by Hazey » Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:47 pm

TOONGA wrote:welcome to the board Hazey

the gregorys manual is here in PDF format

showthread.php?t=16439&highlight=gregorys

and you can still go the EJ motor route just use an EJ25 or EJ22 single cam motor
Thanks for that, TOONGA, that will make for some excellent bed time reading and saved me thirty odd bucks :D on an interesting side note, Gregory's is just down the road from me and you can always tell what particular car they're doing a manual for when the door's open!

First thing I did after purchasing the Brumby I went down to the servo to put petrol in- so what, you may ask. I'm one of those advocates for spending the extra coin and going a 98 RON unleaded in any car no matter what level of modiication the engine is... Think of it as your kids eating junk food all the time- sure it does the job, but there are better, more healthier options. By the second tank I had already noticed a difference in response and low-mid range power, and with the highway miles I drive I had picked up an extra 40ks between fills.
Next up was a trip to the car wash, armed with a bottle of industrial strength degreaser and a toothbrush. The EA81 now not only resembles an engine that just left the factory, but I can keep a close eye on any gaskets that decide to give up and weep oil.
I had an old Uniden UHF in the cupboard, so that went in behind the centre console with a new whip aerial (look hard enough in the above photos and you might be able to spot it in the tray, on the passenger side). Next year, the Government is rolling out a new 80 channel network so I'll hold out buying a new one until then.

Question- you'll see there is some dents to both front guards. bonnet and also the lower valence piece where the previous owner had an altercation with a fallen tree. Aside from the tailgate, cosmetically they're the only things I'm not happy with. I was considering doing a swap to the more modern looking quad light GL front, seeing as the valence piece is attached to the rad support panel and is too tricky to repair. Is the rad support bolted there or welded in place, and is it a straightforward swap? And are the headlight looms interchangeable?

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Post by phantomD » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:14 pm

This looks very similar to my own prized 1989 Brumby. I agree 100% about the fuel, I only use one type of high octane and the car neither drives nor sounds the same on any other fuel.

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Post by steptoe » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:03 am

When I used to use petrol in cars I would run the BRumby twin carb down to very low, shout it ten bucks of PULP and have some instant fun

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Post by El_Freddo » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:57 pm

Hehehe... Benders wash bay and I'd be picking K'flat powerlines?

There's also a short little powerline track out at Mt Sugarloaf near Axedale ;)

Another great track, favourite of mine before they ran a dozer over it (lightly - but that action makes this track legit) is the track almost opposite the one tree hill road that intersects the Sutton Grange Road. Using this track you can get out to the Spring Gully Dam or continue along for a real challenge (take a friend or two with other 4wd's) along the fence line to diamond hill road. Good times learning to 4wd in my subi in this area.

Hope you can make it to Robe with us, it would be great to have another brumby with us ;)

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Post by El_Freddo » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:08 pm

Also Hazey - the Leone must me the same shape (MY model) as your brumby. I say same shape as the different model names can be confusing for someone who's fresh to subi's - not judging you here, just tring to make it easy.

Basically if this leone is the same shape as the subi in my sig you'll have some trouble fitting the bits you want into your brumby. But if the donor vehicle is an MY like the brumby then its all plug and play.

The power steering - you'll need the rack, crank pulley, thermostat housing (sounds crazy but you'll need it to clear the PS pump) hoses, pump and mounts. When you install it you might have to move the brake booster hose to the other side of the manifold - there's a blank on the passengers side that can be swapped over, just lengthen the tube/pipe and put the one way valve in the line.

The AC you'll need all of the wiring, relays, AC pump, pipes, condenser, AC box from under the dash, instrument panel and AC switch on the dash. One of the tricky bits is wiring it in properly.

The 5 speed conversion from the L series is doable and has been done many times. Search the forum (I need to search some more on here) about this and you should be able to find out exactly what you need. Don't give up on the locking centre AWD - while they're sought after they are out there and you just don't know when one might rock on your way ;)

Also the 4wd rear discs from the RX turbo are a great upgrade from the disc/drum combination. Just make sure you get the 4wd setup as the hub that the wheel mounts to is different between the two, thus it will not work on the 4wd. That said, if Ruby's discs go missing I'll be looking you up!

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Post by Hazey » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:52 pm

Cheers for all that info, Bennie!
You're right, those photos were taken at the Easywash in KFlat and the powerline track somewhere between Spring Gully and KFlat. I've taken a liking to the track that follows the train lines that begins behind Centro Lansell... plenty of ruts/puddles/rocks/technical bits to teach me some driving (and the odd recovery) skills!
The previous owner mentioned the track out at Axedale, and I've been needing to check it out. A few of us also used to go swimming out at the Spring Gully dam, and the trip there was always in a mate's old Commodore- pretty scary stuff!
The Leone I came across is of the M.Y. vintage with the same EA81 that the Brumby has got, and I've got the spare three holes on the driver's side head so I'm guessing all the components will go straight in? The AC install may need to wait... As much as I'd love a cold car in summer the procedure seems daunting. Tinted windows may have to suffice :mrgreen:

The Robe trip is hanging in the back of my mind, and if I can get the ute some new tires, an alignment and a service done by then, it's a go!

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Post by El_Freddo » Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:18 pm

Hazey wrote:The Leone I came across is of the M.Y. vintage with the same EA81 that the Brumby has got, and I've got the spare three holes on the driver's side head so I'm guessing all the components will go straight in? The AC install may need to wait... As much as I'd love a cold car in summer the procedure seems daunting. Tinted windows may have to suffice :mrgreen:
Hazey even if it seams daunting to install the AC at least grab all the parts if you have the means to do so without busting the bank account. I've found when I leave something for next time its usually not there when I get back to it :(

The install isn't that difficult, its just some pipes, effectively radiators, a pump and some wiring. The gas has to be done by someone in the know. Also forgot to mention you'll need the skinny electric thermo fan as its apart of the AC cooling system, both fans work with the AC and when the AC's off but the car's hot :D win win there.
Hazey wrote:The Robe trip is hanging in the back of my mind, and if I can get the ute some new tires, an alignment and a service done by then, it's a go!
All best trips do mate! You'll be right with the tyres, its not about tread depth on the sand, a little bit helps but a set of muddies can actually slow you down more than move you through the sand... You just need some legal road tyres and you'll be right ;)

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Post by Hazey » Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:17 pm

Well, what a day I've had... and I'm still smiling from the outcome :)

I put aside a few days to give the Brumby a late birthday present- a major service. I'd head down to Dad's place in Melbourne (wider range of tools, garage space and the classic "two heads are better than one, except in Tassie" adage)
Pretty straightforward... while I'm making my way down he went and picked up the consumables- filters, oil, points, plugs) and the moment arrived, the sump plug came out and off to work we went.
Few things I'll share which happened:
-I realised after removing the spare, air cleaner and radiator how simplistic in design the EA81s really are- they remind me a lot of the Holden "Red" 6 which I cut my teeth tinkering with
-My distributor is electronic! For some reason i was under the impression that all EA81s had points and that certain Escort and Fiori dizzys were popular upgrades. What have I missed here?
-The rear drums aren't auto-adjusting! while they're working much better now, a disc brake rear conversion is definitely on the cards after finding this out
-front struts have some height adjustment left in them- any bit of free lift I get never hurts... Unless the CV angles are stuffed up
-The radiator has been internally flushed, then externally cleaned with compressed air and water. Should perform like new, however the top part that the fan and rad support bolts to has come adrift on one side. Is this easily fixed?
-We would still be outside looking for timing marks on the crank pulley if not for the trusty Gregory's manual situated on this site. Fancy putting them on the flywheel! I'm loving how good it's running with some timing dialled in- can't wait to slap a weber on!

That'll do for me tonight, going parts chasing tomorrow!

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Post by RSR 555 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:41 am

Sounds like you're having fun and always good to spend time with Dad :)
Hazey wrote:-I realised after removing the spare, air cleaner and radiator how simplistic in design the EA81s really are- they remind me a lot of the Holden "Red" 6 which I cut my teeth tinkering with
Perfectly designed and built for the Outback Australia :)
Hazey wrote:-My distributor is electronic! For some reason i was under the impression that all EA81s had points and that certain Escort and Fiori dizzys were popular upgrades. What have I missed here?
Yep.. you've been reading Jules's (TOONGA) tread too much :p the early brumbys and wagons had points dizzys but I believe after 1983 or 1984 all were electronic :) The Escort/Fiori dizzys (and Weber carbies) are used on the EJ engines to eliminate the use of ECUs which make them a great conversion for older cars.
Hazey wrote:-The rear drums aren't auto-adjusting! while they're working much better now, a disc brake rear conversion is definitely on the cards after finding this out
Not really much needed to adjust them and not very often do you need to as they don't get as much workout as the fronts but the disc conversion is a great upgrade.
Hazey wrote:-front struts have some height adjustment left in them- any bit of free lift I get never hurts... Unless the CV angles are stuffed up
Yes with the suspension wound up it will put more stress on the cv joints but if your keen to wind them up and down all the time you might save yourself a few dollars.. for me I can't be bothered and just leave them wound up and the cost of new ones these days, it really aint worth the hassle :)
Hazey wrote:-The radiator has been internally flushed, then externally cleaned with compressed air and water. Should perform like new, however the top part that the fan and rad support bolts to has come adrift on one side. Is this easily fixed?
Buy yourself one of these ( http://www.alltoolsqld.com.au/images/products/10227.jpg ) and some solder and just reattach those straps.. just remember to use gloves and eye protection ( hey Jules :p )
Hazey wrote:-We would still be outside looking for timing marks on the crank pulley if not for the trusty Gregory's manual situated on this site. Fancy putting them on the flywheel! I'm loving how good it's running with some timing dialled in- can't wait to slap a weber on!
Always a good idea too is to grab a white paint marker and put a line or dot on the flywheel.. that way it's easier to read next time :) and yes the Weber conversion is a prefect upgrade.. I see on Ebay you can buy the complete conversion kit :mrgreen:
Hazey wrote:That'll do for me tonight, going parts chasing tomorrow!
Happy hunting and keep us up to date on your findings
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Post by Hazey » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:46 pm

Thanks Paul!

Well, the fun continued today and it's not only been enjoyable- it's been an education.
For the princely sum of twenty bucks, I had the top bracket repaired in the radiator. I'm not overly savvy with metal joining, but it's either been soldered or brazed back on. I might fit some flywire to the grille depending on the locust situation over in Robe, but then again it might be a double edged sword and just be a restriction. Interested to hear everyone's thoughts.
Now for my favourite part...
Much of today was spent combing through Self-Serve parts recycling yards and Yellow Pages. I had even found some crusty looking 504 Peugeots but someone had already pilfered the wheels off them. One Subaru wrecker put me onto a website, findapart.com.au- you put in your details, the parts you're chasing and how urgently you need them. With nothing to lose I gave it a crack, and forty-five minutes later I get a phone call... A wrecker specialising (not that wreckers can specialise, more like they've got a yard full of them) in Japanese cars had a Leone delivered last week sporting some Desert Rats with some "far from new, but far from stuffed" tyres. Brilliant! The wheels themselves haven't seen much work, either- no rust, and the coloured bands are still on the rim. And for half the price of a new set and coming with tires, I was out the door and in the car keying in the address on the GPS while still on the phone!
So I've got my 14s, and somewhere between half and 3/4" of a lift out of it. I'm a happy chappy :D Pics to come!
I spent over an hour at the Centre Road wreckers- not looking for parts in particular, but studying the stockpile of 80s Subies in the yard. I saw things I've only ever seen on forums- like EA82s, EJ22s and one quirky but very cool EA82T XT.

Till next time!

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Post by RSR 555 » Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:50 am

No probs.. can't wait to see the pics :)
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Post by El_Freddo » Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:35 am

I'd seriously consider some flywire over the radiator - I don't know what the locust situation is in Robe, I wouldn't think its bad at all but it could be the travelling in between that catches us/you out. I'll be looking at rigging something up if I have time to do so - you can always take it off once we're in the sand ;)

Glad to hear you had a great time out, centre road is usually the best to hit for subi parts but not always priced the best. Just out of curiosity, the XT turbo - a 4wd unit that was manual? If so I'd be back there to grab that gearbox and possibly the rear diff + rear disc brakes. I'd imagine they'd already be gone when you go there as these are the hard to find parts of the L's that everyone's after once they know what they're looking at.

You'll have to post us a pic of your new boots on the brumby ;)

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Post by Hazey » Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:02 pm

El_Freddo wrote:I'd seriously consider some flywire over the radiator - I don't know what the locust situation is in Robe, I wouldn't think its bad at all but it could be the travelling in between that catches us/you out. I'll be looking at rigging something up if I have time to do so - you can always take it off once we're in the sand ;)
I was pretty much thinking this today- some cable ties and a pair of side cutters and I could put it on/off as required.
El_Freddo wrote:Glad to hear you had a great time out, centre road is usually the best to hit for subi parts but not always priced the best. Just out of curiosity, the XT turbo - a 4wd unit that was manual? If so I'd be back there to grab that gearbox and possibly the rear diff + rear disc brakes. I'd imagine they'd already be gone when you go there as these are the hard to find parts of the L's that everyone's after once they know what they're looking at.
Sadly, it was an auto. Somebody had beaten me to the entire rear section as well. It had an aftermarket cruise control unit fitted that I pondered over, then I saw how good the front seats were... Is there much to fitting these seats to a Brumby? If the rails are readily swappable I'd be very tempted to go back and retrieve them.
One thing I didn't add last night was regarding the EJ motor- They're not as complicated wiring wise as first thought. I may consider a conversion, perhaps with some shaved heads and an LPG throttlebody to make things even simpler.
El_Freddo wrote:You'll have to post us a pic of your new boots on the brumby ;)
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Post by RSR 555 » Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:08 am

Nice :mrgreen:
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Post by Hazey » Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:10 pm

Now that my employment situation has improved greatly, the Brumby is going to greatly benefit from this.
A replacement bullbar is on the list, along with the canopy that I've been trying to find for ages. There's a mob in QLD that makes them still, but freight is an absolute killer!
Adding to that, a weber conversion, 2" lift and some 27" Maxxis tyres.
A month or so ago I took it over to Adelaide and back for a job interview- when I got back I discovered for some reason the 4WD light is on even when I'm in FWD. What's the cause/fix for this?

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Post by RSR 555 » Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:15 pm

Yep.. the switch under the console, just around the handbrake area, is most likely broken. I had it too and for some reason, I've seen it on many Brumbys :( easy fix though, just buy another switch from another Brumby or even easier to find MY Series wagon one :mrgreen:
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