Dann's 92 Subaru L Series Build
Hey guys I thought I might just randomly POP back in after Internets been down for so long,
update on the ol' L shes now got new king springs in the front, new stereo head unit, rear LED reverse light as some of you have seen already, she's driving amazing lately loving the EJ22, sort of wishing I had put a turbo in but oh well does great, leaves other people with surprised looks on their faces haha,
Anyway needing help again after putting the engine in the alignment ripped though a set of front tires, so i realigned them got new tires and wheel bearing, ran great for a week then my new king springs arrive so I popped them in and now my camber is waaay out, will post up a few pics tomoz, but I'm wondering if its possible to put the suspension back in wrong to cause this or do I just need to get the wheels done again (camber?).
Cause I compared the springs to each other and they not much bigger ( they standard L series king springs) probs only about a 10mm or so.
And secondly seen as i've finally got around to doing my engine conversion, I wanna get a full set of tires all matching, I wanna get some all terrains, any suggestions? help? I'm running 14's atm, I know that brings the selection right down but if you guys could help out. I'm looking at doing quiet abit of sand driving, but also I've been getting into abit more muddy/ dirt, hence wanting the all terrains or muddies
Thanks guys will post up some updated pics tomoz
Bye for now
update on the ol' L shes now got new king springs in the front, new stereo head unit, rear LED reverse light as some of you have seen already, she's driving amazing lately loving the EJ22, sort of wishing I had put a turbo in but oh well does great, leaves other people with surprised looks on their faces haha,
Anyway needing help again after putting the engine in the alignment ripped though a set of front tires, so i realigned them got new tires and wheel bearing, ran great for a week then my new king springs arrive so I popped them in and now my camber is waaay out, will post up a few pics tomoz, but I'm wondering if its possible to put the suspension back in wrong to cause this or do I just need to get the wheels done again (camber?).
Cause I compared the springs to each other and they not much bigger ( they standard L series king springs) probs only about a 10mm or so.
And secondly seen as i've finally got around to doing my engine conversion, I wanna get a full set of tires all matching, I wanna get some all terrains, any suggestions? help? I'm running 14's atm, I know that brings the selection right down but if you guys could help out. I'm looking at doing quiet abit of sand driving, but also I've been getting into abit more muddy/ dirt, hence wanting the all terrains or muddies
Thanks guys will post up some updated pics tomoz
Bye for now
Cheers,
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for tyres i went into beaurepairs today just to check prices and kuhmo, toyo and maxxis all do muddies but only maxxis do all terians and they were $215 each fitted
and with the camber i would say if you have fitted std new springs and its changed that much i would have a guess that they are in backwards
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and with the camber i would say if you have fitted std new springs and its changed that much i would have a guess that they are in backwards
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true ok so, what are the part numbers for them if you know mabey a link to the all terrains and others,
And yeah the RSR is the right way thats whats confuzzling me
And yeah the RSR is the right way thats whats confuzzling me
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na didnt get part numbers or a link to anythin just walked in to there shop i just thought that 215 for one tyre seamed a bit too much so was gonna shop around a bit more to get some beta prices and options yea cant really help much with the camber
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Dann.. anytime you play with the suspension, you are always best to have an alignment. As it doesn't take much to change it.
As for your springs, it's very hard to spot the difference when they are out of the car. Only a spring compression tester would be able to show you. Springs lose their spring tension but still retain their shape and size.
As for tyres, it's really hard to say what's best as there is so many variables to peoples driving and uses. IMO, I believe that the best tyre for beach is a road tyre (unless you have a supercharged EJ22 then BFGs work great) and the best tyre of for mud/rock work is Mud Terrain tyres. So best to have 2 sets of tyres, if that is not an option then All Terrain tyres is a perfect compromise.
As for your springs, it's very hard to spot the difference when they are out of the car. Only a spring compression tester would be able to show you. Springs lose their spring tension but still retain their shape and size.
As for tyres, it's really hard to say what's best as there is so many variables to peoples driving and uses. IMO, I believe that the best tyre for beach is a road tyre (unless you have a supercharged EJ22 then BFGs work great) and the best tyre of for mud/rock work is Mud Terrain tyres. So best to have 2 sets of tyres, if that is not an option then All Terrain tyres is a perfect compromise.
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Yeah it did seem abit much, as i spoke to my mate today and he recently got 34inch bighorn tires for his car and cost 314 each fitted, what type of tire are you looking at getting cause i'm leaning towards the all terrains, mabey if you getting a set we could get more discount for buying bulk.90brumby wrote:na didnt get part numbers or a link to anythin just walked in to there shop i just thought that 215 for one tyre seamed a bit too much so was gonna shop around a bit more to get some beta prices and options yea cant really help much with the camber
paul yeash me playing with the suspension is probly the thing that put it out, but i dont think its just wheel alingment? heres a pic of itRSR 555 wrote:Dann.. anytime you play with the suspension, you are always best to have an alignment. As it doesn't take much to change it.
As for your springs, it's very hard to spot the difference when they are out of the car. Only a spring compression tester would be able to show you. Springs lose their spring tension but still retain their shape and size.
As for tyres, it's really hard to say what's best as there is so many variables to peoples driving and uses. IMO, I believe that the best tyre for beach is a road tyre (unless you have a supercharged EJ22 then BFGs work great) and the best tyre of for mud/rock work is Mud Terrain tyres. So best to have 2 sets of tyres, if that is not an option then All Terrain tyres is a perfect compromise.
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It does appear that something else is off.. maybe drive down next weekend (14/15th) and I'll have a quick look.Dann wrote:paul yeash me playing with the suspension is probly the thing that put it out, but i dont think its just wheel alingment?
Not sure how to take this as it sounds double dutch to me but doubt you'd be questioning my work.El_Freddo wrote:This photo makes it look like factory L series camber, which could mean that the strut lift block doesn't have the camber adjustment built into them. But if Paul built it I doubt it doesn't have this adjustment built in...
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All of my lift kits have the correct camber offset built into them but they don't have any extra abilty to adjust that whilst in the car. I do use an aftermarket camber adjustment kit when there are major differences. This allows for finer adjustments when doing laser alignments but I've only had this issue on later models (Impreza and Forester).
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Badly in need of a rear wheel carrier.....! I just got a Mig welder for free. Not sure yet if it works. If it does we can start and only need to rent out a bottle:)
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What camber adjustment kit do you use?RSR 555 wrote:All of my lift kits have the correct camber offset built into them but they don't have any extra abilty to adjust that whilst in the car. I do use an aftermarket camber adjustment kit when there are major differences. This allows for finer adjustments when doing laser alignments but I've only had this issue on later models (Impreza and Forester).
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No Paul, not questioning your work. I'm sorry that it reads ambiguously - but it was meant to say that if the blocks were built by you that it would have the adjustment built in already, which means there's something else at play here.RSR 555 wrote:Not sure how to take this as it sounds double dutch to me but doubt you'd be questioning my work.
I reckon you'll fall over when you find out how much a bottle is to rent, especially if you're still working on a uni shoe string budget!guyph_01 wrote:Badly in need of a rear wheel carrier.....! I just got a Mig welder for free. Not sure yet if it works. If it does we can start and only need to rent out a bottle:)
The only other thing I can suggest is that you move the car down the driveway then back again and see if there's any change. If not, I'd loosen the hub retaining bolts on the top of the hub that holds the strut, hopefully it will move, do them back up then move it back up and down the drive way to help it settle and see what the difference is.
If that doesn't do the trick I'd start looking at the struts - are they on the correct side? I believe that the 2wd and 4wd's had their struts on opposite sides for some reason - or I could be confusing the MY's with the L's. Paul will know for sure.
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reading this ambiguity of mine, I thought I would show you what I did to PJ to give me near negative camber.TOONGA wrote: And when you put it all back together, did the struts get pushed in as far as they could go before the bolts were tightened up?
TOONGA
I don't endorse this as a fix, and I'm sure others will say NO NO NO but it does push the strut top in towards the engine to give less positive camber.
remember if you do this to have the weight of the car supported, all you want to do is move the strut inward not lift the car by the hub, remember it is the hub not the disc.wrong word used negative replace with positive please
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I think you mean less positive camber.TOONGA wrote:reading this ambiguity of mine, I thought I would show you what I did to PJ to give me near negative camber.
I don't endorse this as a fix, and I'm sure others will say NO NO NO but it does push the strut top in towards the engine to give less negative camber.
remember if you do this to have the weight of the car supported, all you want to do is move the strut inward not lift the car by the hub, remember it is the hub not the disc.
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How does the strut top move? Are the holes slotted or just a loose fit?
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yes thats correct less positive camber and well spotted thank you.
Having 3 children fighting in the background while I typed that, made for an interesting moment.
the holes are slightly bigger (not slotted) making a loose fit, as if they were the exact same size as the bolts, you could imagine how much fun it would be to get the struts out.
While it isn't an ideal fix it does make a difference.
and I will go back and edit that post teacher style
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Having 3 children fighting in the background while I typed that, made for an interesting moment.
the holes are slightly bigger (not slotted) making a loose fit, as if they were the exact same size as the bolts, you could imagine how much fun it would be to get the struts out.
While it isn't an ideal fix it does make a difference.
and I will go back and edit that post teacher style
TOONGA
haha yeah I'm thinking that too its two plain at the momentguyph_01 wrote:Badly in need of a rear wheel carrier.....! I just got a Mig welder for free. Not sure yet if it works. If it does we can start and only need to rent out a bottle:)
does sound like a good idea, I might contact you sometime closer to then, i'll have a play around this weekend and see what happen and see how many other thing i manage to break lolRSR 555 wrote:It does appear that something else is off.. maybe drive down next weekend (14/15th) and I'll have a quick look.
did anyone else look at jules jack and think tractor straight away haha, but yeah i see what you illustrating there thoughTOONGA wrote:reading this ambiguity of mine, I thought I would show you what I did to PJ to give me near negative camber.
remember if you do this to have the weight of the car supported, all you want to do is move the strut inward not lift the car by the hub, remember it is the hub not the disc.
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Bennie i've been driving like this for the past week casue i need my car for work and yeah hasn't settled, i thought when i first put the springs in it just had to settle alittle but its still like this :S like i sed i'll have a play around with it on the weekend and see what i can do, i've got a few thing in mindEl_Freddo wrote:
The only other thing I can suggest is that you move the car down the driveway then back again and see if there's any change. If not, I'd loosen the hub retaining bolts on the top of the hub that holds the strut, hopefully it will move, do them back up then move it back up and down the drive way to help it settle and see what the difference is.
If that doesn't do the trick I'd start looking at the struts - are they on the correct side? I believe that the 2wd and 4wd's had their struts on opposite sides for some reason - or I could be confusing the MY's with the L's. Paul will know for sure.
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Bennie
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Yeah, usually for the suspension to settle after having the front end off the ground you just need to roll forward or backward (or both) for a short distance for the front track width to return to normal...Dann wrote:Bennie i've been driving like this for the past week casue i need my car for work and yeah hasn't settled
Hopefully this will be an easy fix once you've checked this out over the weekend
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Wouldn't recommend you use the TOONGA method.. could cause more damage. I'd like to think the spring weight is too high. We can change the offset on the top struts blocks if we have too. No stress.
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So I played around with my suspension yesterday, it's looking way better than before, still not happy with it though so I might pop down to yours paul sometime soon.,
On another note was down in ozzie park this morning and looking at quote prices for tires, after much explaining about what i want the salesmen gave me quotes around $230 per tires fitted, i'm not to happy with that too,
And does anyone have a spare working touring wagon fuel pump they would like to palm off???
On another note was down in ozzie park this morning and looking at quote prices for tires, after much explaining about what i want the salesmen gave me quotes around $230 per tires fitted, i'm not to happy with that too,
And does anyone have a spare working touring wagon fuel pump they would like to palm off???
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