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NATIONAL licences and registration NOW!!

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:47 pm
by steptoe
With reference to the Queenslanders feeling hard done by for a three year ? licence at $150.
Surely with the power of the internet being able to find a lobby body to push for a NATIONAL licence system, not just for cars and rego but everything.

Poor tradies working across the border needing licence for each state they work in - jus a bloody nuisance especially when slightly different rules apply, different fees, time frames etc.


As far as rego goes, we are only 22 million all recorded on national data bases like medicare , ATO [tax office] Centrelink {social services} and all rego and licence for cars are interlinked.

GO NATIONAL. SAME REGO FEE STRUCTURE nationwide. Let the third part insurance differ from insurance companies based on driver records. A national licence for driving too.

All the stuffing around when one moves interstate to rectify everything is a pain in the arse.

Got an engineer cert on a car in VIC. NSW won't recognise it if it is not from a NSW approved engineer!

Buy a car and keep it registered say in NSW, shift to WA and just have records updated with new address - NO FEE. Said car drives around WA for few years with near matching black and yellow NSW plates. Moves to NT after a few years updates address details NO FEE same plates. A new south welshman spies it off, decides to do wrong thing and flog it, stupidly retains NSW plates. A stolen car in NT with NSW plates more likely to stand out in NT - might aid faster recovery. Stupid enuff to steal may be stupid enuff not to realise the plates have given him away.

If it falls out of rego for say a national rule of one year it needs to be inspected before reregister in state of residence THEN and only then get new states plates


YEAH?!

Comments, ideas.

It will never happen

Car rego inspections. Presently, one state inspector cannot fail a car if it stops nice for the test meter but has paper thin pads unless you interpret as dangerous. Another state can fail on low brake pads, stop good or not.An Aus Std inspection manual needs to be sorted to kill these differences too. Have acut off at intro that the mods allowed before and no longer in Oz std be allowed until vehicle is written off given it is likely high powered death machine authorities don't want us to have.
We have ADR's Australian Design Rules, we have ASNZ, Australian Standards shared with New Zealand, with some variations written in for New Zealand

Somehow in some cases each state has retained its own systems for all sort of things developed over the years - look at the different rail gauges that were in use requiring a train and carriage swap for passengers and goods at the border between some states !! OMG

I think we are still in denial over metric that came in in 1973, think some nuts and bolts in new cars built in Australia in last ten years or so still use imperial size nuts and bolts?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:02 pm
by steptoe
What if FRED has his name on him in QLD and FRED from NT has same - the end of personalised plates is what some media were foretelling on this dead end discussion.

Nah, you just record NT FRED or QLD FRED, they retain traditional colours and styles as they have done in past

And if FRED, both of them , have a red 84 Brumby each? STIFF, not likely they gonna be living in same place and if they do, call it coincidence!!

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:06 pm
by vincentvega
why stop there. what is the point of state government?

nationalisation is an abviously good idea, but will probably never happen.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:08 pm
by Alex
nationalisation is a great idea. Its too hard tho. Too much govt bullshit to deal with.

a;ex

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:50 pm
by kj0
Why should each state Drive on the same side of the road? Look at Europe, people drive in and out of each country to go to work sometimes, so they have to convert to a different side of the road.

never the less. I think there should be a general national Transport Department. That way if a state is broke, then that state doesn't have to suffer with the rise while other states are still really cheap. I don't want to move states just because I can't afford to drive my car. but I do want to move states to get out of being under a Bligh Government. I would much rather and probably enjoy the rise in prices of driving my car if the whole country was dealing with it as well. because the increase wouldn't be so much.

The issue some people may have is, A) Personalised Plates. B) Rules regarding P Plates or BAC limits and rulings.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:12 pm
by brumbyrunner
So why have states at all?
The idea is as outdated and inefficient as the shires in Queensland.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:53 pm
by justin35
I think this would be a great idea.Over here in sa the rules are so tight as far as mods go where as in vic you can buy some really hot modded cars but there not legal on our roads,,would be nice to be all as one with rules and rego.

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:14 am
by steptoe
kj0 , the idea is keep the plates on the car at changeover to national system simply recorded as what state the were issued in and continue in that fashion just not lose your plate as you move states.

The whole abolish the states is the way to go, for everything. Leave things like counties in the archives

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 1:00 am
by tony
Phooey
It's hard enough to get the local government to listen to complaints and most councillers live only a few k away. How difficult is it going to be for people to get satisfaction when the people making the decisions are 3000 or 4000 k away?
And as far as WA people are concerned we really don't count because when it comes to national elections the decision about who is the new government is decided before we even finish voting.
Look at the recent GST division, WA got 62 % back of the GST paid, most of it going to the corrupt and mendicant states, and the federal government couldn't give a rats arse because our votes don't count.