Air cleaner price shock

Post by **TOONGA** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:42 pm

So Im back from an excursion to town with my daughter in tow, who by the way loves going shopping for tools with daddy.

I priced a ryco air cleaner for my vortex part number a345 which came in at $35.99 hmmmm me thinks... I wonder if they have a part listing for the K&N air cleaner. 332010 I think was the part number, of course being country none in stock. the nice lady rang Perth $172.95 and wait for it $13.95 freight.

My daughter said NO in a very stern voice... the girl behind the counter nearly peed herself laughing.

I thanked her and she thanked me and Meme for making her day.

I already have a project in play with some filter mat that cost 17 dollars for nearly half a square metre. it is specifically designed for air filters for cars.

TOONGA

NachaLuva · Post by **NachaLuva** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:19 pm

hahaha good one!

Thats one very clever, wise girl you have Toonga

Let us know how you go with the filter project. I would love to replace mine...its such a pain to access!

RSR 555 · Post by **RSR 555** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:31 pm

Yeah.. hard to work out how they come up with those prices?? I think even the STi one in the 22B is cheaper than that and it's a foam/cloth type.

Post by **TOONGA** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:09 pm

I believe they use a chocolate wheel

I have found a used K&N air filter in the US for 25 dollars just waiting to see if he will ship to Australia

TOONGA

coupe · Post by **coupe** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:46 pm

Glad the Jetcar is going great Jules. Geeze i paid $20 for one the last time i got a new one. i picked up a K& N pod filter of the verge last year during a council waste collection its going into the auto vortex.
Cheers Pete

Post by **TOONGA** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:15 pm

I have just found this option as well the K&N 33 - 2232

http://www.knfilters.com/search/applica ... od=33-2232

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/33-2232-K-N- ... 43a58f0e35

under 60 dollars delivered from the UK

TOONGA

NachaLuva · Post by **NachaLuva** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:57 pm

Arent you worried bout the oil-soaked filter gunking things up? I had a Finer Filter on a falcon & crikey it left a mess!

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:02 pm

the K&N ain't really an oil bath foam jobby is it? Had them..... Pheonix filters do good priced paper elements

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:44 pm

I've been told that one of the bommerdore's air filters are the same as the EJ/L series MPFI for about $10 less

I think it was a VN...

Cheers

Bennie

pitrack_1 · Post by **pitrack_1** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:38 am

Hmmm, you all think that's bad? At least they are engine air filters.

Take the Forester Diesel. It's &*@% $89 for a filter and it's not even for the engine- it's the #^$*&% aircon @*^^&$ #@&$! pollen filter that no-one %(A^&@! wants anyway! ***

And expected every *#^$% 12 months! Grrr! And they charged me without warning...

If anyone's figured out what material to get (HEPA filter of some sort?) and how to exchange it into the current frame/housing could they please let me know? Or an aftermarket one?

*** Sorry. It seems I confused the ((@&#^ hashes with the alphabet keys on my keyboard.

Gannon · Post by **Gannon** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:18 am

wikipedia.org/wiki/HEPA

I just wash the pollen filter of my Outback.

Post by **TOONGA** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:47 am

as long as the K&N filter isn't over oiled (or oiled for that matter) they are not a problem

HEPA filters are great if they are made of materials that withstand repeated washing otherwise they degrade and let larger particles through

still looking into my project as well

TOONGA

NachaLuva · Post by **NachaLuva** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:49 am

pitrack_1 wrote:Hmmm, you all think that's bad? At least they are engine air filters.

Take the Forester Diesel. It's &*@% $89 for a filter and it's not even for the engine- it's the #^$*&% aircon @*^^&$ #@&$! pollen filter that no-one %(A^&@! wants anyway! ***

And expected every *#^$% 12 months! Grrr! And they charged me without warning...

If anyone's figured out what material to get (HEPA filter of some sort?) and how to exchange it into the current frame/housing could they please let me know? Or an aftermarket one?

*** Sorry. It seems I confused the ((@&#^ hashes with the alphabet keys on my keyboard.

hahaha i thought so

But wouldnt you be glad if you have to follow a cattle truck or rubbish truck? Or a passenger unwittingly pollutes the air (never the driver lol)

NachaLuva · Post by **NachaLuva** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:51 am

TOONGA wrote:as long as the K&N filter isn't over oiled (or oiled for that matter) they are not a problem

According to their website they are oiled

Subyroo · Post by **Subyroo** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:14 am

pitrack_1 wrote:Hmmm, you all think that's bad? At least they are engine air filters.

Take the Forester Diesel. It's &*@% $89 for a filter and it's not even for the engine- it's the #^$*&% aircon @*^^&$ #@&$! pollen filter that no-one %(A^&@! wants anyway! ***

And expected every *#^$% 12 months! Grrr! And they charged me without warning...

If anyone's figured out what material to get (HEPA filter of some sort?) and how to exchange it into the current frame/housing could they please let me know? Or an aftermarket one?

*** Sorry. It seems I confused the ((@&#^ hashes with the alphabet keys on my keyboard.

You think that's dear?, then you had better start putting some big dollars aside for the DPF for when it has to be replaced then, I believe it's up around the $3k mark.

Smokey · Post by **Smokey** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:27 pm

El_Freddo wrote:I've been told that one of the bommerdore's air filters are the same as the EJ/L series MPFI for about $10 less I think it was a VN...

Cheers

Bennie

I think it's the A360 same as the VL maybe others. Around $15 at SCA.

GOD · Post by **GOD** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:01 pm

Smokey wrote:I think it's the A360 same as the VL maybe others. Around $15 at SCA.

A360 is used in most VL-VT Commodores and early EJs. MPFI L Series use A345, which is much less common and more expensive.

An A360 can be made to fit the L airbox with some foam packing.

Dane.

pitrack_1 · Post by **pitrack_1** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:14 pm

Subyroo wrote:You think that's dear?, then you had better start putting some big dollars aside for the DPF for when it has to be replaced then, I believe it's up around the $3k mark.

Hmm, yes, quite right! I've seen that quote somewhere else... had forgotten it was a filter! Cost was also in Euro I think, making it worse.

I've decided either:
a) DPF Prices will drop as aftermarket ones become available- any exhaust place will do a catalytic converter now, the same should be true for DPFs in the future.
b) I'll trade out of the vehicle before I reach that point- I'm lucky enough to have that option. Alternatives are becoming (or are already) available.

Couple of documents point to some reasonable lifetime expectations for light-duty DPFs: min 100,000 miles/160,000kms (tested) and 120,000 miles (~193,000 kms) mandated in USA. Heavy duty vehicles run much further.

http://www.swri.org/9what/events/confer ... 20Zhan.pdf
http://www.nrel.gov/vehiclesandfuels/ap ... /39010.pdf
http://www.aecc.eu/content/pdf/AECC%20P ... 020206.pdf
http://www.aecc.eu/content/pdf/AECC%20- ... 200805.pdf

Note these papers/talks all predate Euro5, one as far back as 2004. Predicted technologies then are now in production. I imagine the Europeans would kick up a big stink if/when their DPF-equipped vehicles age and start requiring new DPFs.

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