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want tips on secure toolbox to tray

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:29 pm
by steptoe
I'm after the collective genius (and of some of those individual genius amongst us) for suggestions on how to secure my toolbox of same as whatsisnames Brumby trayler - sorry, Carl, to my Brumby tray, with keeping ease of authorised removal, prevent unauthorised removal. Having two padlocks on the crooklocks is enough of keys or combos - just want a protected from insiode fastening system

The easier to make, install and lock/unlock by me - the better

It is aluminium thunderbox ? not a crapper though :)

Thinking, I have a few 75mm flat metal circles I could use to weld a bolt to and thread bar underneath tray so not poking up when not in use

Or those ute tray side and tail clips with the topped Y shaped adjustable hooks fit two biggies to floor of box inside, with holes cut to accept up the clasps riveted to the floor, click click and done

Fire away comment, critiscism or even pics (of anything will do for starters - yer missus, sister, etc :D)

Is this it ...

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:33 pm
by Bantum
If your talking about this one ...
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It's more bolted on I think than 'removable' ... ;)

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:44 pm
by steptoe
I am, and only just as give an idea of what I have and how big etc ...

thse things...
http://www.utebits.com.au/epages/shop.s ... 03L/41Z%22

called over centre fasteners ...though they may not resist real monkey wrestling and determination theft attempt.

Thinking the big washer added to bolt on the inside and captivated nut and reinforcement below may be best and cheapest - nothin' better than home made :)

Bolt in ...

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:25 pm
by Bantum
What about drilling a hole though the lot & bolt from in side ? ( make sure you find a good spot for holes First ... )

A cheap solution and resonably theft resistant ... :)

Another way would be to put hold down tabs/angles externally on the box & floor then bolt them ...

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A bit like this Battery holder ...

Or even better these little puppies ...

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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:26 pm
by steptoe
mmmm...keep 'em coming...maybe secure prongs at one end with padlock just at other end on a tongue/clasp...just want it to be all tidy when removed too - tall order.

Might just be easy to hook up the pooch that took to my boot with his teeth last night. He grew up next to a building site and copped a few kicks - He HATES workboots and anything in them !

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:32 pm
by steptoe
Thinking continues...along the idea of the raised bits of the floor allow for bolt heads to be up top to secure a steal (sic) strap underneath without interfering with the slidy nature of the floor for loading unload other things when box not in.

Bolt down from inside box using my big metal discs as wing nuts so no tools needed to undo to remove

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:57 pm
by Silverbullet
On my recently acquired ute there are 2 threaded holes on the floor near the cab I assumed for the roll bar thingy you can get, is this on all brumbies? If so you could use those to bolt through from the inside of tool box perhaps with your metal discs or a fat bar going from one side to the other inside for reinforcement.

Bolt heads

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:43 pm
by pitrack_1
If bolts are easier:

Allen head bolts are a good start and commonly available.

Security bolt heads help. At least you need a special tool, or an angle ginder/cutting wheel. They should be available eg at Specialty Fasteners.

If you can recess the head bolts, so much the better- prevents multigrip attack.

And if you want to be really sneaky, try left-hand threads.

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:10 pm
by steptoe
Yeah, gas bottle in the way of those threaded thingy on the floor, if they are there at all , and want to keep access to holding device in box.

I do like the idea of being able to remove easily but may just fall for th ute with a boot thing when installed - going in longwise from bottle guard back to snugly in with tailgate, pref LHS for weight distribution, currently sitting on RHS with matt black lid to ward of evil shiny retina attack.

Brain is thinking even something with a 90 or 180 degree twist action from inside the box like XB GT bonnet pins :) - gosh, took a lot to get picture to words .....

Twisty locky thingy ...

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:41 am
by Bantum
Would this help ?

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swing_handle_cabinet_lock_with_padlock_device

Handle lifts, then turns to 'open'. After removing padlock of course !

They could be mounted either side, with a hook cut into lever - which engages the body or a clip mounted to tray ... :confused:

Clear as mud ?

:oops: I just read the order details - they want a min of 1000 ... ha

Another option ...

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lockable_flush_lock_flat_lock

Or you could try this ...

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T-HANDLE-HEAVY-DUTY-INDUSTRIAL-LOCK

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:56 am
by steptoe
Hmmm....been sleeping on it, so too Bantum by the results - good work and thanks

Well, I reckon a thousand units would keep the box well and secure eh ? :D

Something like a u bolt bolted to floor to look like a n bolt, nuts topside and under, a neat slot in the base of the toolbox, with some reinforcement could be simple enough with unobtrusive upside down U bolts for when box not in.

To use something I thought like bonnet pins would require a slotted hole in floor ...think I will try a captive nut situation and O ring under th bolt head inside the box. I use O rings on trailer D shackle bolts so they remain tight yet fingers can undo them.
When whatever is done I'll com back in here to report .....

Ok, Try these ...

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:26 pm
by Bantum
These might be more what your looking for ...

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bushranger_anchor_track

Or for a more flush fit ...

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Recessed-Tie-Down-Rings

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:12 pm
by sven '2'
Is not tool box security so much - is where you park the car

Rather than try to stop the invertible (your tools will be stolen from your ute), think where you park it.

A gang has operated your years in Adelaide targeting the tradies visiting a pub on Friday arvos

Sure, a good tool box will stop the casual passerby, but nothing says goldmine like a high fortified tool box in a ute.

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:10 pm
by steptoe
Next thought that entered head was the spring loaded gate latch for trailers etc, riveted to the toolbox floor, poke outside and into an unexposed catch hole.
Have started - drilled a 10mm hole in box floor, through to the tray and beyond, up to bolt length selection, got the 82mm circles of metal for reinforcing the floor of box...got distracted and decided to fit up new 180W Fusion speakers into doors replacing the buzzing Sony Exploded pair, tossing the packaging and making more room available in the bathroom :)

There are tool box alarm kits too :)

http://www.dobermansecurity.com.au/tool-box-alarm/

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:35 am
by AlpineRaven
I have an metal toolbox in my FG falcon that is secured on the floor, Ive actually welded all thread onto a round disc and drilled a hole thru the floor of the tray - glued the bolt/disc under the tray and the toolbox is being hold down by nuts. Works well - doesnt move at all and I feel more secure to keep expensive tools in that box under the canopy cover.
Cheers
AP

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:11 pm
by El_Freddo
So what have you come up with?

When we got Sunnie the Brumby there was a tool box bolted in the tray through the factory holes - no drilling of tray floor required! The box wasn't going anywhere either. Also remember to weather proof the box with beads of silicon along the joints to create a seal. And treat the exposed metal to avoid future rust issues ;)

Cheers

Bennie

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:45 pm
by steptoe
Halfway there, welded a nut to a plate and riveted it to underside of tray. Top side has pressed round flat about 80mm with an AC belt tensioning bolt going through. Finding as I go the tall tension bolt head won't be welcome up the other end for the toolbox that found a home inside the bigger toolbox, won'tr sit flat if I do. Had to paint inside and top of box as reflection was blinding me :)