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damn computers
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:50 pm
by TOONGA
Well I have my computer back on line ... only took 3 days
It started with an ominous repeated 3 beep bios noise, which with an intel board means uh oh get a new motherboard (not really... depending on the bios it was one of 3 things memory video card or motherboard)
so I started by removing the PCI video card and ran the machine on the onboard card , beep beep beep ... stopped the machine checked the ram it was working and in good condition according to my other machine.
put it all back togther and it ran for 2 more days... then beep beep beep, checked everything again nothing ... checked it all again the intel flash screen starts but I can't get to the bios.
So I decide to salvage the hard drives processor and ram and make one computer out of 2. I put the drives into the other working computer same problem and now the other computer boots to the bios WTF...
off to the diagnostic computer plug in the C drive from my desktop and wait... and wait ... time for a coffee still nothing ... ok diagnostic computer tells me C drive is kaput unrecoverable ... thats not a 3 beep code WTF
so 3 days later and much reinstalling later, sees me running a new C drive in my desktop, with a grumpy wife who lost quite a bit of stuff from the old drive even though she has her own drive to save to on the computer ... I lost a heap of subaru book marks but luckily they are on the wiki (somewhere)
the moral of the story make sure you back up wifeys stuff littering the desktop
TOONGA
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:20 pm
by steptoe
that is another task I need to learn - back up
Data Recovery ...
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:33 pm
by Bantum
Hmmm, that sucks ...
However, you should be able to
automate the backup process & make sure it's done at least once a month ( if you're not using it a lot ) or do it more frequently if you use it loads more ...
Good luck with finding the old data though, it can be achieved with various recoving programs ...
Cheers, Bantum
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:55 pm
by TOONGA
Bantum if the drive could be read I would use "get back data" or one of may other recovery programs I have, to recover the info but it doesn't boot at all.
this is a sata drive and unlike the old ide drives where you could freeze them or swap the driver board they are very fickle, Im going to see if it is under warranty still and get a replacement.
One last thing have you even backed up 4 terrabytes of information

I have, you need a 500 gig drive for one back up, so every month I would need to find 500gig.
TOONGA
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:58 pm
by Alex
Stop looking at pron
Sent from my Motorola RAZR HD
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:04 pm
by TOONGA
Alex wrote:Stop looking at pron
Sent from my Motorola RAZR HD
not on this computer
TOONGA
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:10 pm
by RSR 555
You only need a 1TB drive to back up 2x 500GB 'backups' after that, you just write over the oldest copy.
Proper backup programs will take long for the initial backup but after that, they just add the extra info that has been added.
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:15 pm
by RSR 555
TOONGA wrote:Im going to see if it is under warranty still and get a replacement.
I heard it was 5 years old??
Good luck claiming warranty

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:23 pm
by TOONGA
yeah I wrote that before I checked the drive... only 3 years warranty on seagate drives
TOONGA
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:40 pm
by niterida
I use Allway Sync (an automatic synchronising program) that keeps the latest version of all my files as soon as they are changed and across all 3 computers. Keeps the missus's million photos up to date and a copy on 2 other machines as well just in case
Came in handy last week when my motherboard failed on my Desktop. I haven't fixed it yet so am reduced to using a 7" netbook

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:03 pm
by steptoe
Alex wrote:Stop looking at pron
Sent from my Motorola RAZR HD
I am goin to quote Alex, just to preserve his innocence. Type pron into a search engine, not think you will find what you are suggesting what TOONGs been looking for

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:33 pm
by 555Ron
Toonga, you could try running a linux live cd to try and recover some data. You can run it off a CD and drag whatever you find onto a usb stick.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parted_Magic
Plug in the drive, run parted magic off the cd and remove any other hard drives to remove the risk of a woops, see what you find.
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:50 pm
by TOONGA
555Ron wrote:Toonga, you could try running a linux live cd to try and recover some data. You can run it off a CD and drag whatever you find onto a usb stick.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parted_Magic
Plug in the drive, run parted magic off the cd and remove any other hard drives to remove the risk of a woops, see what you find.
Would just use a recovery program if the drive would
boot but it doesn't
doesn't boot so even with a linux live disc it still wouldnt show up.
for the record guys I'm not a newbie with these things, I got an Itanium server to run when a computer tech of 20 years couldn't

and to this day I still shudder when I think about it.
TOONGA
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:28 pm
by taza
RSR 555 wrote:You only need a 1TB drive to back up 2x 500GB 'backups' after that, you just write over the oldest copy.
Proper backup programs will take long for the initial backup but after that, they just add the extra info that has been added.
This is what I have, but with about 10Tb, maybe more data

Works well.
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:11 pm
by TOONGA
I found part magic and out of curiosity I tried it. the drive kept giving error 16 and eventually linux booted without mounting the drive.
Which I thought would happen but I wanted to try
Nice one to add to the collection for drives that are recoverable or partitionable
thanks 555ron
TOONGA
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:25 am
by 60766244
Hey TOONGA - all your bookmarks are here on the wiki.
http://ausubaru.wikidot.com/wiki:subaru-related-sites
Can be found in the small side menu labeled "Subaru Related Sites" - I might change it to "Subaru Bookmarks" next time I am on the wiki.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:57 pm
by 555Ron
TOONGA wrote:Nice one to add to the collection for drives that are recoverable or partitionable
thanks 555ron
TOONGA
No problems. Not many people are aware of it but it does have a memory test function to test the RAM and will also boot with no hard drive so it can be quite useful.
I have had a hard drive fail with photo's on it so I looked into getting them back quite seriously. A last throw of the dice is to put the hard drive in the freezer overnight to try and fix it temporarily. If that fails people will sell working silicon boards that will fix it if it is a ROM problem - not related to the read heads or actual mechanics of the drive.
I guess it all comes down to how much you want the stuff back and how much you are willing to pay for it. If you go on a shooting rampage in the USA you will have some great forensic minds working on getting your data back but you might also end up on death row.