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Australia Day

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:32 pm
by revmax
What does it mean to us. Most of us think about celebrating the day Australia was settled/or the poms arived but just have a think about how you feel when you hear about the "Boat People" trying to seek refuge in Austalia.
NOW have a look at the attached photo.
How do you feel, think about it.

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:04 pm
by pezimm
Hi Revmax,

I, for one, wasn't born in this great country... I'm not exactly "boat people", maybe "plane people", but same-same. Got here 7 years ago.

Nevertheless, now call Australia home! I reckon it's just about the best country in the world to live in. I've been lucky to have the country choosing me too and got my citizenship almost 2 years ago.

To me, Australia Day is a celebration of the community, our community. It's the day to enjoy a good BBQ, listen to the Triple J Hottest 100 on the radio and just be merry to each other. Australia is what it is in part because of its diversity. It's this mix of cultures, beliefs and points of view that make this place such a great place.

Sure, there are wrongs that need to be made right - with Aboriginal people and others. I trust we're heading the right way. We can't change the past, so we benefit more from looking into the future and making sure we don't make the same mistakes again.

If I had to summarise Australia in one sentence, it would have to be "the land of the fair go". We need to keep ensuring all have access to that!

Happy belated Australia Day to Aussies old and new!
Pedro.

Our New Flag ...

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:15 pm
by Bantum
Here is what I had some thoughts on ;

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Note : This is a draft composite of other flags that I like, but put together here ...

More info :
  • Usual Southern Cross on Blue background - The constellation indicates the geography of our place in the southern hemisphere.
  • Commonnwealth star on Black background - Represents our national unity, with six points for the states and one point for the territories, backgroud colour in recognition of our aboriginal heritage.
  • Boomerang shapped, Red with White strip empennage - A heavily stylised Union Jack in acknowledgement of our ties with the 'mother' country and this great land + its future directions.
  • Yellow Dot Track - Life force & wanderings of the everyday Australian.
Enjoy, Bantum ... :D

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:32 pm
by d_generate
What a stupid fcuking argument, Cook, Van Diemen etc were discovering a new world and looking for new lands to establish, they came across a completely undeveloped country with very few inhabitants, what were they supposed to do? they were not running from a regime that is evil or out to fund a terrorist organisation.

Are you saying they should have just turned away? What about the Americas when they were taken over by the British and Spanish? should they have turned away also?

That's the way it was back then, get over it and get on with it because living in the past will not cure today's problems!

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:34 pm
by d_generate
Bantum wrote:Here is what I had some thoughts on ;

Image

Note : This is a draft composite of other flags that I like, but put together here ...

More info :
  • Usual Southern Cross on Blue background - The constellation indicates the geography of our place in the southern hemisphere.
  • Commonnwealth star on Black background - Represents our national unity, with six points for the states and one point for the territories, backgroud colour in recognition of our aboriginal heritage.
  • Boomerang shapped, Red with White strip empennage - A heavily stylised Union Jack in acknowledgement of our ties with the 'mother' country and this great land + its future directions.
  • Yellow Dot Track - Life force & wanderings of the everyday Australian.
Enjoy, Bantum ... :D
Nothing wrong with the flag we have.

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:02 pm
by TOONGA
Careful kids lest we start a race riot on AUsubaru.

We are all Australian regardless of race, colour or creed (Not an Australian saying by the way) and we all deserve a "fair suck of the savloy" (what ever that means)

Be thankful we have country people want to be refugees in (again) I remember learning that after the last war to end all wars most of Europe came here as refugees of one sort / form or another.

Without these people would we be as diverse as we are today?

TOONGA

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:25 pm
by sven '2'
Let me tell you about my AU day

Daughter needs a desk, onto gumtree, trailer hitched we go out to one of Adelaide's 'less desirable' suburbs.

Pull up out the front - there a 4 cars on the lawn, kids running around, and this food smell which could only described a god sent. Turned out to be (loosely translated) as goat curry.

Turned out they were refugees from Afganastain, she a nurse and mother of 4, he a tiler/builder. Escaped the Taliban for assisting orphaned kids from the wrong tribe.

We ended up staying for 2 hours, them sharing their lunch with us (sitting on the floor), me telling them about Australia, daughter playing with the kids, and showing off the house that he was feverishly renovating (after his cleaning job during the day) with members from the community.

At the end, felt humbled and lucky, and they refused payment for the desk.

That is pretty Aussie in my book!

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:12 pm
by jims
Sven, thanks for sharing that. Really nice to hear :)

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:38 pm
by TOONGA
Sven thats excellent :)

TOONGA

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:50 pm
by thunder039
before svens great story i was going to play this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FONN-0uoTHI

:);) just to lighten up the topic

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:51 pm
by 60766244
I think people should be allowed to immigrate sure, but I don't think multiculturalism is the answer, more, integrationism - add to the Aussie culture and be one with it, but don't try be here and stay stand-alone to our ways, or try mess with how the good things are - there's reasons people come here. :)

My grandpa came here from Germany straight after the war as a young man who just finished a bankers apprenticeship and married an Aussie lady and kicked off the Aussie Werny clan, and it's great. I love this land.

I think everyone should be treated equally, no tax breaks, hand outs, or anything extra for any "special" brand of people, whether they're white, coloured, native or foreign.

If everyone was put on the same level field in this country, then exceptionalism and special treatment would be gone and decency would prevail.

I judge people by their actions, not by their parentage or looks.

The flag should stay as it is. As with our anthem.

And, if the Dutch and English hadn't found the place, then surely some other nation would have, and who know's what would have happened. If the Chinese has found it, there would have been a much more full-on outcome historically...
But, I firmly think, if you don't love this place, leave. :)

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:53 pm
by sven '2'
thunder039 wrote:before svens great story i was going to play this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FONN-0uoTHI

:);) just to lighten up the topic
Still funny!!

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:35 pm
by d_generate
60766244 wrote:I think people should be allowed to immigrate sure, but I don't think multiculturalism is the answer, more, integrationism - add to the Aussie culture and be one with it, but don't try be here and stay stand-alone to our ways, or try mess with how the good things are - there's reasons people come here. :)

My grandpa came here from Germany straight after the war as a young man who just finished a bankers apprenticeship and married an Aussie lady and kicked off the Aussie Werny clan, and it's great. I love this land.

I think everyone should be treated equally, no tax breaks, hand outs, or anything extra for any "special" brand of people, whether they're white, coloured, native or foreign.

If everyone was put on the same level field in this country, then exceptionalism and special treatment would be gone and decency would prevail.

I judge people by their actions, not by their parentage or looks.

The flag should stay as it is. As with our anthem.

And, if the Dutch and English hadn't found the place, then surely some other nation would have, and who know's what would have happened. If the Chinese has found it, there would have been a much more full-on outcome historically...
But, I firmly think, if you don't love this place, leave. :)
Well said, a little too much "political correctness" around here, everyone seems too scared to stand up for their own country for fear of upsetting someone, like you said, if you don't like it then fcuk off.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:40 pm
by taza
60766244 Well bloody said!

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:08 pm
by pezimm
60766244, couldn't agree more!

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:14 pm
by El_Freddo
Well, it's been said before - 60766244 that's well said!

I still love this:

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Cheers

Bennie

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:26 pm
by 60766244
Shucks guys.

Saying it as I see it.