Question re: 2" Lift kit with 4" Strut Tops

RSR 555 · Post by **RSR 555** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:15 am

Hi Guys, Just looking for anyone who has fitted 4" Lift Kit Strut Tops to L.Series that has a 2" Lift Kit installed. I'm hoping to find out what (if any) problems they have come across and what size tyres have they fitted? I'm also fitting a Crossbred kit all round and want to know what front strut would work best to achieve the same height as the above setup?

SuBaRiNo · Post by **SuBaRiNo** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:00 am

Im pretty sure u can't put bigger strut tops than the rest of the kit into an L series. Throws off the CV angles to a point that u will have trouble with boots ripping all the time and thats if the joints can even handle the angle.

Also your camber will be so far out u will scrub tyres very quickly. I would be seriously surprised if anyone has acheived the set up you want without problems.

Best you might be able to acheive (but in my opinion i would not recomend) is a lift kit of the same height all over with lifted springs. Even this is pushing the boundaries of the CV angles in my opinion though.

Dave

phillatdarwin · Post by **phillatdarwin** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:49 am

if u do not go pass 32dec on your angle it will be ok .as that is the max angle u can put on a CV .
and u find this out with the car jack up and the wheels just off the ground .

Matt · Post by **Matt** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:28 pm

You will eat CV's especailly with the crossbred kit as i am pretty sure the anlge of the front liberty hubs is different making the Outer CV on more of an angle, but i could be wrong.

RSR 555 · Post by **RSR 555** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:25 pm

Thanks Dave, Phil and Matt

I'm 99% sure someone here had done it but I've done the searches and didn't come up with anything

What I'm trying to achieve is to put my 205/70R15 tyres on my L.Series without trying to go too high on the lift. I won't be using the car for serious offroad stuff but don't want the tyres rubbing.

Any ideas would be great

GOD · Post by **GOD** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:44 pm

27x8.50R14 ATs will go on an unlifted L series with minor mods to the front guards (bash flat the rib on the firewall, and cut/fold the lower front corner of the wheel arch). The rears scraped until I put King Springs in, but that would be mainly due to all the extra weight in my car. According to my sums your 15s are a slightly smaller OD and also narrower, so they should be fine.

Dane.

SuBaRiNo · Post by **SuBaRiNo** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:51 pm

The tyres that fit are directly related to the offest of the rims u are using too. I have seen Purgot rims fit on with 27 inch tyres with no rub and the same tyres on sunnies and they rub. This was on an MY though.

I think the closer the rims sit in towards the car the bigger the tyres u can go but the weirder it will look.

Dave

RSR 555 · Post by **RSR 555** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:59 pm

GOD wrote:27x8.50R14 ATs will go on an unlifted L series with minor mods to the front guards (bash flat the rib on the firewall, and cut/fold the lower front corner of the wheel arch). The rears scraped until I put King Springs in, but that would be mainly due to all the extra weight in my car. According to my sums your 15s are a slightly smaller OD and also narrower, so they should be fine.

Dane.

Thanks Dane. A quick search on the web results in ...

Flotation Diameter (in.) Metric size
27x8.50R14 27.5 215/75R15

So I'm thinking I should be right just to stay with my 2" lift kit which is already fitted, albeit prior to fitting the crossbred kit.

GOD · Post by **GOD** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:00 pm

Yeah, should have mentioned that. Mine were on ex-Wanky Wagon Speedy sunnies, as in my sig pic.

Dane.

RSR 555 · Post by **RSR 555** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:02 pm

SuBaRiNo wrote:The tyres that fit are directly related to the offest of the rims u are using too. I have seen Purgot rims fit on with 27 inch tyres with no rub and the same tyres on sunnies and they rub. This was on an MY though.

I think the closer the rims sit in towards the car the bigger the tyres u can go but the weirder it will look.

Dave

Cheers Dave, The rims I'm hoping to use are a set of original 93 RS Turbo wheels. I not sure of the offset but I'm guessing it wont be too much??

Here's a picture of the rims..
http://us1.webpublications.com.au/stati ... s/0098.jpg

RSR 555 · Post by **RSR 555** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:13 pm

GOD wrote:Yeah, should have mentioned that. Mine were on ex-Wanky Wagon Speedy sunnies, as in my sig pic.

Dane.

So Dane, Just to get this right.. you have a standard ride height with 27" tyres on Speedy rims? I really thought that they would have rubbed

If this combo doesn't then I'm guessing mine will be fine

twilightprotege · Post by **twilightprotege** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:34 pm

my rears are a 2" lift with a 4" spacer for the rear. no problem there. for the fronts however, my strut tops are only 1cm higher than the blocks. dont know how that will go, but looks like it'll do the job just fine

GOD · Post by **GOD** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:40 pm

RSR 555 wrote:So Dane, Just to get this right.. you have a standard ride height with 27" tyres on Speedy rims? I really thought that they would have rubbed

If this combo doesn't then I'm guessing mine will be fine

Yes indeed. Or I used to anyway. Got rid of them because they were noisy and too wide for my liking.

Bash here:

Cut here:

Result:

Rears scraped over bumps when it had saggy springs, fronts were fine.

Dane.

RSR 555 · Post by **RSR 555** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:09 am

Cool... I guess I'll just try it out

Post by **TOONGA** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:42 am

the car i know of here in WA with a strut lift of 4" and a body kit of 2" is a liberty wagon down this way in Australind he has had no problems with rubbing or shafts but then it is a liberty (92)

Looking under my brumby the other day (2"all round with 215 /65 / r14 with no bashing) I could see a 4" lift going on the struts would put the CV's back to an angle just past where they were from factory

TOONGA

Phizinza · Post by **Phizinza** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:18 pm

In the Us they often just do 2" strut lifts to EA82 wagons. I personally don't like the idea.
And if you are just going to run 27"s, well do a radius rod mod, cut some fenders and done, no lift needed.