92 brumby

hazzard · Post by **hazzard** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:18 pm

Hey all

I am curious about the adjustable suspension ive heard about on the brumby can someone give me a bit of a detailed descrition on how to adjust the front and rear suspension as i wanna mainly lift the front to make it even with the rear

Please dont pick me on not putting fullstops and stuff in my thread as i only have internet acess on my phone

littlewhiteute · Post by **littlewhiteute** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:29 pm

The front struts have adjustable lower spring seats via two windup bolts per side. Each bolt has a locknut to loosen first.

The rear has a bolt in the centre of the torsion bars. Common anchor point for both bars.

You could wind the front up and lower the rear a tad.

Wheel align after is recommended.

ashleyn · Post by **ashleyn** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:05 pm

littlewhiteute wrote:The front struts have adjustable lower spring seats via two windup bolts per side. Each bolt has a locknut to loosen first.

The rear has a bolt in the centre of the torsion bars. Common anchor point for both bars.

You could wind the front up and lower the rear a tad.

Wheel align after is recommended.

I believe Subaru doesn't recommend this as a long term solution.

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:06 am

ashleyn wrote:I believe Subaru doesn't recommend this as a long term solution.

Very true.

I'd lower the rear end. If you follow the torsion bar across the vehicle in front of the rear wheels there will be a bolt in the centre that can be adjusted to lower the tension on the torsion bar thus lowering the rear end. It will be difficult to turn and if there's no hole in the tray area to access this bolt (I can't remember if there is or not) you could drill one for easier access if you're keen.

Cheers

Bennie

hazzard · Post by **hazzard** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:42 pm

So for the front i have to losen the 2 lock nuts either side then adjust the nut in the middle of the strut is that what u mean

And thanks for your help

littlewhiteute · Post by **littlewhiteute** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:17 pm

hazzard wrote:So for the front i have to losen the 2 lock nuts either side then adjust the nut in the middle of the strut is that what u mean

And thanks for your help

Do your front struts have adjustable spring seats?

It is obvious when you see it, not many cars have this ex factory.

littlewhiteute · Post by **littlewhiteute** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:18 pm

ashleyn wrote:I believe Subaru doesn't recommend this as a long term solution.

I can't see how this would be an issue compared to some of the modifications I've seen.

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 4:19 pm

littlewhiteute wrote:I can't see how this would be an issue compared to some of the modifications I've seen.

It gives positive camber and creates premature wear of the front tyres more so than they already do on the outer edges, plus the handling at speed around corners would be dismal at the very least...

What mods have you seen?

Cheers

Bennie

littlewhiteute · Post by **littlewhiteute** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 4:33 pm

El_Freddo wrote:It gives positive camber and creates premature wear of the front tyres more so than they already do on the outer edges, plus the handling at speed around corners would be dismal at the very least...

What mods have you seen?

Cheers

Bennie

The fronts are adjustable to allow the front to stay within spec for ride height.

Mods I've seen? I've seen just about everything, including a lot that shouldn't be on the road, and even never to be fitted to a vehicle for off road.

The rules are way too relaxed these days.

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 4:55 pm

littlewhiteute wrote:The fronts are adjustable to allow the front to stay within spec for ride height.

Mods I've seen? I've seen just about everything, including a lot that shouldn't be on the road, and even never to be fitted to a vehicle for off road.

The rules are way too relaxed these days.

I doubt the rules are too relaxed - many operate outside of these rules...

You haven't given any clear descriptions of the bad modifications you've seen, just a broad generalised statement about seeing "them".

The front struts are raise-able for short term use such as around the paddock at low speed - not for every day use on the highway. Subaru state this for a reason, maybe liability and maybe for the longevity of the CVs or other components of the vehicle. Either way, its been written in the owners instructions for a reason.

You can drive around with it wound up all the time, but you will look like this \-/ more so than normal and expect the edges of your tyres to wear super quick.

Cheers

Bennie

hazzard · Post by **hazzard** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:23 pm

Yer ive seen a few brumbys that look like this \-/ wouldnt a wheel alingment fix that issue

On another note wouldnt a lift kit give u the same issues and can u buy stronger cv's to withstand the increased angle

Also is it possible to fit diff suspension like a litte 4x4 coilovers to give better travel and better ride height

isnowi · Post by **isnowi** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:09 pm

hazzard wrote:Yer ive seen a few brumbys that look like this \-/ wouldnt a wheel alingment fix that issue

In short no. The increased camber cannot be dialled out with a wheel alignment because there is no camber adjustment built into stock brumby suspension, the camber becomes pretty laughable very quickly because of the bottom arm angle, it is already quite a steep angle, and any steepening of the angle (by raising the struts) quickly results in issues.

hazzard wrote:On another note wouldnt a lift kit give u the same issues and can u buy stronger cv's to withstand the increased angle

Lift kits for brumby's generally lift the body off of the suspension and the crossmembers, thereby not affecting the suspension geometry, I am not aware of any stronger cv's.

hazzard wrote:Also is it possible to fit diff suspension like a litte 4x4 coilovers to give better travel and better ride height

Very few 4x4's have a macpherson strut front end, and even fewer are IRS. I'm not sure what you mean by better travel, but i will presume you are hoping (as i was initially) to have about the same bump travel with an increased amount of sag, the only way that i can see to get this result is basically a complete custom strut, probably requiring new compression/caster rods to achieve better articulation.

If you are looking for better articulation, removing the front swaybar will result in more sag, and will feel like you have swapped to a softer spring rate (will be a pig on the road if you drive it like a car.)

This is the adjustable front strut, you wind the nuts to move the spring seat up and down.
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hazzard · Post by **hazzard** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:07 pm

Cheers for the info very useful

ashleyn · Post by **ashleyn** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 9:29 pm

Ordered the kit from Crossbred. Bit of a novice, any tips from people who have done this ?

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