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Post by Brumby Kid » Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:03 pm

My mate told me this and i just wanted to clarify as he doesn't always know what he is talking about:rolleyes:. Ok so, he said a lift kit just lifted the body ie. panels. I thought it lifted everything, the chasy as well. I would have thought that they would lift everything or people would just get a suspension lift.
Is it worth bothering with a lift kit or should i get a suspension lift?
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Post by mud_king91 » Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:28 pm

On subaru,s it lifts all bar the driveline... So he was right he just didnt take into account that subarus use a monoque chassis (built into body) as apose to standard 4x4,s ladder frame

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Post by Brumby Kid » Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:30 pm

Would this be the same as a suspension lift? Would the driveline be overexposed when offroading?
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25" 185r14 Yokahama Delivery Star, light truck tyres
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Rear Aguip step/bar
Liberty seats
"Bianca"
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Post by taza » Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:00 pm

There is a Full Body Lift which will lift the whole body but leave the engine, gearbox, diffs, etc... at stock height.
Then there is a strut lift which lifts everything except the wheels. All the body, diffs, gearbox, drivetrain, engine, sumpguard.

I went for a strutlift personally because I bashed my sump in and was damaging the underside too much :rolleyes:
But with the combination of both you can go more than 3" compared to just one or the other.

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Post by Brumby Kid » Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:05 pm

Prices? Sounds nasty, yeah i think the max is 2" but with suspension you can go more. I would probs only go the body unless it wasn't too expensive and worth the strut lift.
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EA81 Rebuilt by Tony Knight from knight Engines
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25" 185r14 Yokahama Delivery Star, light truck tyres
2" Sports exhaust
Rear Aguip step/bar
Liberty seats
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Post by mud_king91 » Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:08 pm

no matter what unless its diy its expensive but it comes to personal prefference and where you will be offroading

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Post by taza » Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:27 pm

True what mud_king91 said. The cheapest and easiest way to lift your brumby would be using 2" strut blocks which would cost you about $350-400 also if you put them in yourself or with the help of others rather than going to a shop.

Also i might add anymore than 2" (50mm) is illegal without an engineering certificate and your vehicle can be yellow stickered.

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Post by Tuckerbag » Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:32 pm

i dont know about other state but in NSW, vehicle prior to 2009 allow for 100mm ride height change.

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Post by tex » Sat Sep 24, 2011 12:33 am

A 100mm may be true but when using lift blocks by themselves you are allowed no more than 50mm lift blocks (according to national standards). But in saying that I have 50mm lift blocks in my outback and all legal plus once you do that it is possible to fit decent sized tyres on, And one of my brumbies has a three inch kit and forrestor wheels and tyres but has more clearence than my dads hilux!
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Post by mud_king91 » Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:08 am

In sa anything over standard requires an engineering cert

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Post by Brumby Kid » Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:34 am

Ok so 2" is fine? then engineering certificate which costs the earth? Can i raise my suspension as well without A certificate? I hate the sa laws!
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Liberty seats
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Post by Green_eyed_liberty » Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:06 am

the reason for the "body lift" is so you can fit bigger tires under the guards without too much trimming. that's where most brumbys get there ground clearance is through bigger wheels/tires

and keep in mind the heigher you go suspension wise, the more camber you will get (bad camber.. not hella flush camber!)

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Post by rtcb65 » Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:10 pm

If you are talking about a brumby, it is the easiest to do. You just put a lift kit in it , which lifts the body( more ground clearance under the body). Then you put 14 inch rims and tires on, with something like 27 inch tires. Then you have body and drive train clearance . Price wise for a good lift kit , from say Crossbred Performance is around $450 or so.

As for strut lift , it cant be done in a brumby, as there no struts in the back. With a lift kit as said above , there is no problem with wheel alignment or camber, due to none of it is touched.
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Post by Brumby Kid » Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:30 pm

rtcb65 wrote:If you are talking about a brumby, it is the easiest to do. You just put a lift kit in it , which lifts the body( more ground clearance under the body). Then you put 14 inch rims and tires on, with something like 27 inch tires. Then you have body and drive train clearance . Price wise for a good lift kit , from say Crossbred Performance is around $450 or so.

As for strut lift , it cant be done in a brumby, as there no struts in the back. With a lift kit as said above , there is no problem with wheel alignment or camber, due to none of it is touched.
Sounds Good,
thats what I want is a higher car with more ground clearance. I think i have 14" sunnys (will double check tomorrow) but with standard road tyres. What does a lift kit actually look like? Yes i know im young and dumb, so i sought of have an excuse.:rolleyes: Are they easy to put in? Where are some good places to get them from? I know the forum sells them (never thought a forum could sell you something:lol: haha) Crossbred as said above. And everyones favourite Subawreck.:rolleyes:

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EA81 Rebuilt by Tony Knight from knight Engines
2" body lift
25" 185r14 Yokahama Delivery Star, light truck tyres
2" Sports exhaust
Rear Aguip step/bar
Liberty seats
"Bianca"
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Post by rtcb65 » Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:00 am

If you go to the Crossbred Performance web site , it will show you what a lift kit looks like. Just follow the buttons ( ie , products ) .
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Post by B00sting » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:52 pm

rtcb65 wrote:If you are talking about a brumby, it is the easiest to do. You just put a lift kit in it , which lifts the body( more ground clearance under the body). Then you put 14 inch rims and tires on, with something like 27 inch tires. Then you have body and drive train clearance . Price wise for a good lift kit , from say Crossbred Performance is around $450 or so.

As for strut lift , it cant be done in a brumby, as there no struts in the back. With a lift kit as said above , there is no problem with wheel alignment or camber, due to none of it is touched.
Could you do a coilover conversion in the rear and front of a brumby?
Is there really no way to do a strut lift with a bit of work?
What about landcruiser (fj40/45) struts, apparently they might fit?
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Post by Brumby Kid » Sat Apr 21, 2012 5:23 pm

So I'm looking for a 2" lift kit. Where Would people reccomend buying from?
Crossbred performance, subtle solutions
Steve at rising sun?
Just after a list so that I can get the best quote.

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EA81 Rebuilt by Tony Knight from knight Engines
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25" 185r14 Yokahama Delivery Star, light truck tyres
2" Sports exhaust
Rear Aguip step/bar
Liberty seats
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Post by d_generate » Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:23 pm

B00sting wrote:Could you do a coilover conversion in the rear and front of a brumby?
Is there really no way to do a strut lift with a bit of work?
What about landcruiser (fj40/45) struts, apparently they might fit?
FJ40/45 had leaf springs and shock absorbers front and rear.
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Post by mud_king91 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:52 am

d_generate wrote:FJ40/45 had leaf springs and shock absorbers front and rear.
i was gunna say... i wish my 40 had struts might have made it a tad more comfortable to drive
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Post by El_Freddo » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:06 pm

Brumby Kid wrote:So I'm looking for a 2" lift kit. Where Would people reccomend buying from?
Crossbred performance, subtle solutions
Steve at rising sun?
I don't know if Steve at rising sun does them... Crossbred produce a great product, Venom's running a two inch full body lift in his H6 liberty.

Or you could try emailing the crew here: liftkits@ausubaru.com and hopefully they'll be able to get back to you. I think a lot of members have forgotten that the BYB crew make lift kits. From memory it was Subi Wan Kenobi that was building them, I'm not sure what the status is these day, hopefully you'll find out ;)

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