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Airbag suspension

Post by AndrewT » Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:32 pm

Anybody got some information on this.
I understand some models of Lib came with this as standard - which ones?
(I know some L series did too but very very rare).
Also how far up and down do they go? I would assume only pretty minor, perhaps a difference of about 1 inch?
Would there be any way to make them go up and down more?

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Post by FROG » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:42 am

liberty gx touring wagons ....dunno about travel....tryin to work it out....
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Post by Suby Wan Kenobi » Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:46 pm

Gen1 Liberty GX and they lifted the car about 30mm but if you are going to use it offroad go the early Outback struts and raised springs for a better setup
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Post by AlpineRaven » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:22 pm

Yeah as above.... Gen 1 GX Liberty 4WD wagons, common in manual but never seen in automatic. Normally people just upgrade them to standard spring setup.
I've driven one once and I didnt like it as it felt like a boat.
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Post by vincentvega » Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:50 am

I dunno about never in automatic. never in FWD is probably a more accurate statement.

I have an auto 4x4 lib that had airbags before the coils went in
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Post by Chris_Rogers » Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:15 pm

the Jap L gt2 s had it. I removed the rest of the system from mine. to my understanding it raised the car 30-35 mm and dropped it that amount over 80kmh.
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Post by vincentvega » Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:18 pm

same behaviour for the libs. automatically drops at 80kph

subydazz is an expert on airbag suspension in libs - hes been tolerating his for longer than anyone i know!
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Post by 4xsama » Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:40 pm

Is it a fair comment the pneumatic suspension is a bit of a gimmick?
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Post by vincentvega » Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:23 pm

no it worked great for what it was designed for - some extra ground clearance when needed in the snow.
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Post by loostriker » Wed May 07, 2008 11:13 am

yesh so i just bought a gen 1 lib with airbag suspension, just some more clarification on what the button for this actually does.

its pretty clear that when u push it once height wud adjust up, then again and it shud go back down.

maybe i have a problem, but wen i push i cant visibly see any movement?
-i know peddars dealt with the guy i bought it from recently, maybe they stooged him over.

also sometimes when im driving along the up/down arrows both flash for no reason, then goes away wen i switch off and restart the car!!

i love being a noob, help me :p

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Post by dwayneb » Wed May 07, 2008 12:48 pm

The indicator flashing for the suspension raising is never a good sign. I had a Liberty with the same fault before I heard about ausubaru. I had the whole system removed from my car. Air bags were leaking, bent struts
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Post by El_Freddo » Wed May 07, 2008 5:41 pm

dwayneb wrote:I had the whole system removed from my car. Air bags were leaking, bent struts
Ouch... how do you bend a strut in one of them (how do you bend a strut anyway - not including a "minor" prang with another car)?

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Post by loostriker » Wed May 07, 2008 6:26 pm

The indicator flashing for the suspension raising is never a good sign. I had a Liberty with the same fault before I heard about ausubaru. I had the whole system removed from my car. Air bags were leaking, bent struts
im hoping it wont have to be a case of the above, im just taking a prod at what sounds good to me, but maybe if the bags have been removed already, the electrics are just havin a spazz cos nuthins happening...

havnt had a close look yet but is there an easy way to check what type of suspension parts ive got? ie a place to see model #'s etc..

once again, i love being a noob, but lovin learning all about it!

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Post by AlpineRaven » Wed May 07, 2008 6:52 pm

El_Freddo wrote:Ouch... how do you bend a strut in one of them (how do you bend a strut anyway - not including a "minor" prang with another car)?

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You wouldnt be able to "straight" them out - wont work at all.
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Subarus that I have/had:
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1996 Liberty Wagon - SkiFX AWD 5MT D/R, Lifted.. Outback Sway Bar, 1.59:1 Low Gearing see thread: 1.59:1 in EJ Box Page
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Post by Alex » Wed May 07, 2008 7:36 pm

El_Freddo wrote:Ouch... how do you bend a strut in one of them (how do you bend a strut anyway - not including a "minor" prang with another car)?

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its really very easy :) especially l-series struts.

1st 4x4 trip i ever go on, unlifted, hit a big **** off roack going pretty quick. Wrote off two tyres and two rims. Oh and a strut. LOL

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Post by AlpineRaven » Wed May 07, 2008 8:38 pm

Ouch!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah reminds me that I wrecked the steering rod after going over a rock too fast with high psi tyres (I forgotten how many PSI they were and did damage to the strut tower and steering arms, never was right ever since... BTW it wasnt Subaru.
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Subarus that I have/had:
1995 Liberty "Rallye" - 5MT AWD, LSD - *written off 25/8/06 in towing accident.
1996 Liberty Wagon - SkiFX AWD 5MT D/R, Lifted.. Outback Sway Bar, 1.59:1 Low Gearing see thread: 1.59:1 in EJ Box Page
Sold at 385,000kms in July 2011.
2007 Liberty BP Wagon, 2.5i automatic
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Post by dwayneb » Thu May 08, 2008 8:10 am

I bought the car with a bent strut, tried to claim it against the compulsory insurance that we paid for with the purchase of the car, no good. $ 2000.00 out of pocket. Put me off Liberty's for ages. Starting to turn now, but am still enjoying the Brumby.
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Post by chriSTIan » Thu May 08, 2008 10:58 pm

I drive a lib wgn with factory air suspension,no leaks,works perfectly.
You definitely feel it when it goes up,the rear goes up 1st then the front.
When its in the lifted position,there is an orange line that comes on above the car outline on the switch,if u press the button,the arrow will point down and the suspension will go down and stay down unless u press the button.
When u r in the up position and u go over 80kmh,the arrows point down and it goes down. when u hit 50 or less the arrows point up and up she goes!!
When everything works fine they are awesome.
Not sure if u can go higher with them,i'd like to get rid of the 80kmh trigger that makes it go down.

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Post by loostriker » Sat May 10, 2008 6:18 pm

mine adjusts i think, the lights light up when i push the button and when i hit those speeds.

its just that it still has both up and down lights flashing at the same time for no reason sometimes!

annoying....

any hints? electrical im guessing.

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Post by Bumpty » Sat May 10, 2008 7:41 pm

A mate has the flashing lights in his lib, but his airbags are taken out, its just his electricals spazzing out. Get a ruler out and measure the height to be certain if is doing anything.

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