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lowering probs with rx L series ( perth WA )
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:46 pm
by alan
Hi all
I'm new to the subaru game, always had nissans.
I've recently bought a 87 rx L series running a ej20t, I have lowered it and am now having probs with the rear drive shafts clunking when I taking off (accelerating) the drive shafts are now up at an angle this is were I think the clunking etc is coming from is there a solution that anyone knows about or any suggestions would be appreciated (maybe longer shafts are available ), I am based in perth wa.
cheers alan
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:49 pm
by BrennyV
are you sure they are not just on there way out?
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:54 pm
by alan
they were perfect yesterday lowered it all last night and the clunking started straight away
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:58 pm
by BrennyV
checked all the pins in ya rear cv's?
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 1:06 pm
by Matatak
culd be purely coincidental liek backlash starting in the diff or the unijoints on propshaft on there way out
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 1:19 pm
by alan
went out and checked seem ok, not that i'm an expert:)
there is a fair amount of movement back and fourth ( diff centre >< to wheel ) on the shafts about 5 to 10 mm is this common?
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 1:22 pm
by Alex
flogged out bushes maybe?
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:49 pm
by Matt
Sounds like the shaft is to long, off memory it should be more than 5-10mm with the car on the ground. If not the shaft will hit the back of the shaft causing the clunk you described, maybe. Does it only happen on acceleration?
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:12 pm
by stamp_licker
What style of rear diff is used ?
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:19 pm
by alan
yeah it only happens when accerating, the style of diff I dont know all I could see on it was part number- 27011AA151 and the ratio is 3.900
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:29 pm
by AndrewT
Could just be something fouling somewhere, perhaps the exhaust is banging on something. I'm not bad at figuring noises out, take me for a spin sometime. Is it an RX Sedan? I'm hopefully going to be building mine up sometime soon with EJ20turbo.
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:14 pm
by alan
it's definetly not the exhaust but your more than welcome to come on over as is anyone else and I'll take you for a spin, yep it's an rx sedan.
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:09 pm
by BlackMale
Now this could have us all thereā¦
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:57 pm
by alan
well your all welcome but she's not going to fast at the moment because of the clunking
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:51 pm
by steptoe
what sort of gearbox is it? (may help identify the diff)
is it EJ AWD box? if so there would not be an adapter plate between the box and motor. If there is a an adapter plate about 12mm thick you must have an EA style box and rear diff.
Curious because I also have a 3/87 auto turbo 4WD sedan and thinking of shovin' in FWD rear springs to se if it goes lower at its arse
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:48 am
by BlackMale
Can you tell if the knock is in direct relation to car speed? Is there any signs/markings of anything rubbing on something else in the rear as it she be leaving a mark? Eg if its only doing it under acceleration have a look in the tunnel near the front of the diff, or around your rear drive shaft boots.
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:11 pm
by alan
thanks guys went and saw tony flood today used to rally subaru's and pit crew for the australian works team, apparently the drive shafts are to long so I've gotta now try and find some shorter shafts to suit an r180 diff anyone..
thankyou verymuch for all your help It's been very much appreciated
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:42 am
by discopotato03
Jono I think you'll find that having a full tank of juice and a boot full of various Subaru conversion bits will level it out ! How could I know this ....
I find the factory RX sedan springs to be sort of ok though the dampers leave a bit to be desired . I've yet to get back to my handling god but I'm pretty sure its the anti roll bars that will make a big difference to a road RX . Front and rear really need to be larger to increase roll stifness and its a similar path with an Impreza .
As to rear springs the only way to have it level and stay that way (remember fuel and boot content weight) is to increase the spring rate and use shorter fitted length springs . If you do this be very sure that the springs remain trapped between their seats at full extention (full droop) because it gets dangerous if they don't and may not self relocate when the suspension compresses again . Misplaced springs have been known to chop brake lines and tear the inner sidewalls out of tyres at times . Not something you want to take chances with . Shorter springs often need short dampers to make it all work properly .
Cheers A .
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:50 am
by steptoe
R180 diff ? is that a subaru term ? shorter shafts for an L series ? well if L series are wider in the front than an MY, maybe MY rear shafts will do the trick for lowered L ? the fronts have 45mm difference
and curiosity asks what sorta gearbox you got ?
A. will keep this in mind!
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:05 am
by BrennyV
sounds to me like its running the full ej driveline if its got a R180 diff?