MY Swaybars.

Matatak · Post by **Matatak** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:45 am

so i heard somewhere the Brumbys have a thicker front swaybar than the wagons and sedans and etc.

anyone confirm or know the dimensions (thickness)?

what other things to increase the pisspoor handling of a soontobelifted Wagon?

Sprinter13 · Post by **Sprinter13** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:31 am

Wow, read my mind as far as my questions go!

I wonder if you could weld one directly on top of another one? Or re-enforce it by putting a plate on it in places or over the whole thing?

fredsub · Post by **fredsub** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:40 am

No,you can't weld swaybars without changing metal properties, it should be a hi-carbon content steel (spring steel) - always a b* to weld anyway.

But you can buy special clamps for just that purpose you have in mind, or make use of ubolts etc to clamp together

SuBaRiNo · Post by **SuBaRiNo** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:04 pm

Im not sure about brumby ones but i do have a brumby i can check out and see. But i do know that 2wd sedans have a thicker swaybar than wagons. Im not sure where your basing your info that Wagons and Sedans are the same thickness. On the MY's i have seen Sedans had a thicker one. Not really something you want to do for offroading... good for on-road though.

Dave

rtcb65 · Post by **rtcb65** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:19 pm

I can only write from our own personal experience, Which we have come accross 2 brumby's with thicker sway bars than our 82 wagons and 2 84 touring wagons that also had thicker sway bars than our 82 wagons.
Also when buying the bar rubbers, there where 2 sizes listed.
Like i said , that is only personal experience. That is not saying that the bars were original equipment either.

Matatak · Post by **Matatak** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:31 pm

SuBaRiNo wrote:Not really something you want to do for offroading... good for on-road though.

Dave

the onroad part worrys me with my car.
i can see myself understeering into the side of the road going way to fast oneday.

i will gladly sacrifice some offroad ability for safety onthe road

RTCB65 - do u (or any1) else know wt sizes they were? as then i can find out what mine is

plucky · Post by **plucky** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:57 pm

Perhaps you shouldn't drive it like a sports car (which it most certainly isn't) or trade it in on one?
Heavier sway bars will reduce off road ability by limiting articulation and therefore grip in some situations.

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:25 pm

must be the EJ22. I have a FWD sedan 84 MY front sway bar kicking around - it is hollow tube steel !! I could swear the Brumby has a solid

90brumby · Post by **90brumby** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:09 pm

ye the brumby is solid i had a slightly bent 1 here somewhere ill c if i can find it and measure it up 4 ya

rtcb65 · Post by **rtcb65** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:45 pm

I measured the 2 sizes up that we have here today. The 2 biggest ones are 22 mil which come off a brumby and a 83 touring wagon. The other 2 are 20 mil and they come off the standed wagons.

Too Many Rubes · Post by **Too Many Rubes** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:02 pm

FYI - increasing roll stiffness in the front generally INCREASES understeer.
put a rear bar on it. And then fix the atrocious front end geometry.

SUBYDAZZ · Post by **SUBYDAZZ** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:46 pm

I find it hard to believe any swaybar would be hollow?

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:52 pm

sounds hollow and the ends are squished flat to boot !! wouldna believed it meself

Matatak · Post by **Matatak** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:06 pm

so we have Solid ones in 20 or 22mm.
TOuring wagons and Brumbys gettin 22 mm ones possibly.

Sedans maybe 22mm and are Hollow.

any other variations or etc.
this thread may also help others who want to know to post if u know anything

Ruperts Trooper · Post by **Ruperts Trooper** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:19 am

SUBYDAZZ wrote:I find it hard to believe any swaybar would be hollow?

Large hollow tubes are stiffer for the same weight as a small solid bar - or lighter for the same stiffness.

SUBYDAZZ · Post by **SUBYDAZZ** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:14 am

Well there you go. 20 and 22mm are quite big for a swaybar for a small car. the Libertys had 17mm, airbag libs had 19, but yeah, I am sure they are solid.