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so i heard somewhere the Brumbys have a thicker front swaybar than the wagons and sedans and etc.

anyone confirm or know the dimensions (thickness)?


what other things to increase the pisspoor handling of a soontobelifted Wagon?

Wow, read my mind as far as my questions go!

I wonder if you could weld one directly on top of another one? Or re-enforce it by putting a plate on it in places or over the whole thing?

No,you can't weld swaybars without changing metal properties, it should be a hi-carbon content steel (spring steel) - always a b* to weld anyway.

But you can buy special clamps for just that purpose you have in mind, or make use of ubolts etc to clamp together

Im not sure about brumby ones but i do have a brumby i can check out and see. But i do know that 2wd sedans have a thicker swaybar than wagons. Im not sure where your basing your info that Wagons and Sedans are the same thickness. On the MY's i have seen Sedans had a thicker one. Not really something you want to do for offroading... good for on-road though.

Dave

I can only write from our own personal experience, Which we have come accross 2 brumby's with thicker sway bars than our 82 wagons and 2 84 touring wagons that also had thicker sway bars than our 82 wagons.
Also when buying the bar rubbers, there where 2 sizes listed.
Like i said , that is only personal experience. That is not saying that the bars were original equipment either.

SuBaRiNo wrote:Not really something you want to do for offroading... good for on-road though.

Dave

the onroad part worrys me with my car.
i can see myself understeering into the side of the road going way to fast oneday.

i will gladly sacrifice some offroad ability for safety onthe road




RTCB65 - do u (or any1) else know wt sizes they were? as then i can find out what mine is

Perhaps you shouldn't drive it like a sports car (which it most certainly isn't) or trade it in on one?
Heavier sway bars will reduce off road ability by limiting articulation and therefore grip in some situations.

must be the EJ22. I have a FWD sedan 84 MY front sway bar kicking around - it is hollow tube steel !! I could swear the Brumby has a solid

ye the brumby is solid i had a slightly bent 1 here somewhere ill c if i can find it and measure it up 4 ya

I measured the 2 sizes up that we have here today. The 2 biggest ones are 22 mil which come off a brumby and a 83 touring wagon. The other 2 are 20 mil and they come off the standed wagons.

FYI - increasing roll stiffness in the front generally INCREASES understeer.
put a rear bar on it. And then fix the atrocious front end geometry.

I find it hard to believe any swaybar would be hollow?

sounds hollow and the ends are squished flat to boot !! wouldna believed it meself

so we have Solid ones in 20 or 22mm.
TOuring wagons and Brumbys gettin 22 mm ones possibly.

Sedans maybe 22mm and are Hollow.


any other variations or etc.
this thread may also help others who want to know to post if u know anything

SUBYDAZZ wrote:I find it hard to believe any swaybar would be hollow?

Large hollow tubes are stiffer for the same weight as a small solid bar - or lighter for the same stiffness.

Well there you go. 20 and 22mm are quite big for a swaybar for a small car. the Libertys had 17mm, airbag libs had 19, but yeah, I am sure they are solid.