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airbags? Can they go offroad?

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:41 am
by subie_1st_timer
maybe a stupid question but someone gotta ask. Anyone fitted bags?

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:21 am
by madmat
i have airbags in my obw and i go offroad no problems

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:18 am
by AndrewT
I think if you stacked it pretty bad or came down very hard they might activate but they are designed to trigger with a very sudden deceleration.

What's an obw?

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:19 am
by Suby Roo
Im guessing so cause things like Nissan PooTrolls and newer 4wd's like that have air bags fitted and they dont seem to have problems.

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:49 am
by BrennyV
AndrewT wrote:I think if you stacked it pretty bad or came down very hard they might activate but they are designed to trigger with a very sudden deceleration.

What's an obw?
outback wagon?

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:58 am
by madmat
Out Back Wagon

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:09 am
by Wilbur
subie_1st_timer wrote:maybe a stupid question but someone gotta ask. Anyone fitted bags?

Are you talking about SRS airbags or suspension air bags ?
I don't see why you'd want to fit SRS bags as an afterthought......

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:14 am
by Jack
BrennyV wrote:outback wagon?

Does the term OBW differentiate it from an Outback sedan? :p

Assuming you are referring to SRS airbags ...

... It does take a decent deceleration force to activate Australian spec airbags (~18km/hr at the point of impact). Only way I could see that happening off-road is if you run into a tree or an embankment (an embankment example is 'dune flying' and the vehicle's nose digs in deep on impact).

Sideways slip into a ditch shouldn't activate side airbags as this type of incident is generally done at low speed - thus the side impact forces are relatively light (when compared to an on-road T-bone accident).

Losing traction / direction when reversing down a slope and impacting a tree will not affect airbags. A rear end collision does not activate airbags, only frontal and side impacts (if side airbags are fitted) do that.

A roll-over may or may not activate airbags. It depends upon where the deceleration forces are directed through the vehicle's body.

USA spec airbags are calibrated to activate at slower speeds (~10km/hr from memory) due to the fact that seatbelt wearing is not mandatory in some US States. Something to keep in mind if you start searching Google for facts and figures.

:)

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:36 am
by El_Freddo
If your talking about suspension airbags (since we're in the suspension section), they should be fine. My mate's got airbags in his rangie and he loves them. Just found a new set that allows him 1.4m of articulation!

Crazy.

If your talking safety airbags I wouldn't give it a second thought unless your one of those "hit the rock as hard as you can to see what breaks" type of 4wders...

Cheers

Bennie

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:21 pm
by subie_1st_timer
no im talking about 'suspension' airbags...(think mini truck) why would i think about fitting an srs airbag to a brumby?? its got a seatbelt :D

only reason i asked is it would be awesome to just be able to 'lift' the car a little higher on the rough stuff... or, if ya wanted to go the other way, cant say ive ever seen a brumby done mini truck style...that would be bad ass if i do say so myself...

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:06 pm
by AlpineRaven
You cannot rely Air Bag Suspensions as they do tear/blow out and they're very costly to replace... Ive seen and heard lot of stories about airbag suspensions.. and they're too soft tho.
Cheers
AP

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:07 pm
by AlpineRaven
OBW - Outback wagon - really American terms of saying because they do have Outback sedan... Really we call them OB here.
Cheers
AP

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:00 pm
by El_Freddo
You could have a professionally installed kit in there at a price near $5000. I haven't looked into this properly, just hear about a mate who has too much money and no brains - he stuck an airbag kit on a VL commodore... enough said.

If you get the right airbags i'm sure they'll be fine for off roading.

And yes it would be cool to beable to push a button and have the car rise an inch or so. You'd probabily want to get a camber kit fitted to do that though...

Check out some sites, I'd probabily talk to my local 4wd centre after they get over laughing about a subaru 4x4 :D (cos its not a "real" 4x4...). And i'd be saving for it too...

Cheers

Bennie

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:53 pm
by Point
Dad's Merc does that. push button 4 inch lift....

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:52 am
by Outback bloke

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:14 am
by Suba
One option that isn't very expencive and a few members ove rthe years have had is air shocks at the back , it can raise the rear by up to 3 or mor inches ,I had them on my old MY wagon and were a great thing to have , especially if you were carrying a heavier load in the rear.
The rear air shocks we used were a Monroe part # MGR 5O4 , you will have to make a different top mount but that is very simple really.
As far as the front goes I'm not sure what you could do in a similar aplication.

Mike.