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original radio - new one. needing wire diagram

Post by Learner » Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:23 pm

i need to finda out what the wires are coming from the original radio. where can i find that out? that's for an l series touring wagon.89 model

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Post by Chris_Rogers » Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:28 pm

what version? Am/FM/tape? AM/FM only?

they run a common earth on those anyway so you will have to rewire them.

remove the kick panels and grab the 2 pin plug in each - remove the B pillar lower trims and do the same. route all of them to the radio area.

antenna may be the other issue. length may be a bit short.
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Post by Gannon » Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:39 pm

DL's have a common earth, GL's didnt. Well my 89 GL Touring wagon doesnt

I will check the colours for you
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Post by Learner » Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:14 am

it's the am/fm/tape wire diargram should be available somewhere
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Post by Gannon » Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:20 am

From memory

Red is constant +12v
Black 0v
Blue is switched with accessories

Yellow and blue for front left, white and blue front right
Yellow/blue and blue rear left and white/blue and blue for rear right.

I will check for sure soon
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Post by Learner » Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:41 am

that's what i was thinking but if there is a way to confirm it it would be great... thank heaps suparoo

i got :
black - earth*
red - constant 12v*
yellow -
blue - acc *
blue/white -
white -
grey/red -
yellow/black -
blue/red -
grey/black -
green/red -

both the yello and blue wire are split to connect to the tape part
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Post by Gannon » Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:12 pm

Is your wagon a Gl or a DL?

Does it have factory speakers in the rear doors?
Current rides: 2016 Mitsubishi Triton GLS & 2004 Forester X
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Post by Learner » Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:45 pm

gl and yeah does have the factory speakers in the rear doors
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Post by ChPLAT » Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:13 pm

Can probably scan you a wiring diagram from me Haynes tomorrow if you'd like.
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Post by Learner » Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:23 am

that would b helpfull cheers
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Post by ChPLAT » Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:01 pm

Hmm my scanner sucks so I'll fill in some your list for you but it says 'typical audio system for 1980- 1994' so yeah I dunno it's all it has. Very vague even though it cost me 40 bucks. Make sure you get your multimeter out and test those first don't take my word but maybe that will help.

black - earth*
red -Illumination switch
yellow - speaker?
blue - speaker?
blue/white - speaker?
white - always hot?
grey/red -
yellow/black - hot on key?
blue/red -
grey/black -
green/red -
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Post by Gannon » Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:53 pm

I just pulled out my cd player and this is what i got.

The constant positive i wired from the battery (via a fuse of course) in heavy gauge wire to reduce voltage drop
Black = Negative
Blue/Yellow = Accessories

Yellow = Left Front Speaker
Yellow/White = Left Rear Speaker
Blue/Red = Left Speaker common

White = Right front speaker
White/Blue = Right rear speaker
Blue/Black = Right speaker common

I havent yet hooked up the rear speakers but it looks like they have a common ground per side.
Current rides: 2016 Mitsubishi Triton GLS & 2004 Forester X
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Post by ChPLAT » Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:03 pm

Yeah on my diagram each sides speakers ground to the same point
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Post by Alex » Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:30 pm

PS...re-wire the speakers, the stock speaker cable is nothing short of appalling.

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Post by Suby Roo » Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:37 pm

I dunno if it is like this in any other cars but i found out that the constant power for my stereo ran from the clock in the dash.

I figured this out when i put my new stereo in and the clock stopped working and smoke started coming out of the dash. It melted all the wires and caused a lot of head scratching..

But it should be that:
Black= earth
yellow= 12 v constant power
red= ignition (so stereo turns off when the key does)
and the rest etc blue, green, brown, white, Grey i think should be your speakers.
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Post by Gannon » Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:57 pm

There appears to be a few variations

Your best bet would be to grab a multimeter, pull off your speakers and bell each one out individually
Current rides: 2016 Mitsubishi Triton GLS & 2004 Forester X
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Post by Smokey » Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:59 pm

I'm a stickler for organisation (messy is fine so long as its organised and safe:)). I picked up the female wiring plug from the wrecker, took a while to find a stock stezza, choped the wires and plug off it. Then hard wired my Pioneer plug to it to make a solid "pioneer" specific loom, so i could easily take my deck form one car to another. However my 88 and 86 have different wires going to the back of the male plug (that is the one that stays w the car). So effort wasted.

I concur, looks like there are variations...

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Post by Learner » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:18 pm

checked ther wireing. looks like suparoo's got it right. the colours i gave wer from the unit not the car. anyway... beeen ugging me that i couldn't find a constant 12v, but then i thought, those old unit didn't have a constant feed because they don't have memory. am i right? i did find that the clock's constant feed is the blue one but i'm thinking about using the fuse box.
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Post by Chris_Rogers » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:43 pm

strange thing is mine (88 japspec) has a +12 feed in it. clock is easier to get at for +12 and its fused.
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Post by Learner » Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:11 pm

probably because it is a jap spec. anyhow i did all the wireing and my new pioneer head is all powered up from constant 12v, acc, and illumination. now i just got to go through my speakers. i decided to keep the original pluged aswell. that's for protection. the new head is hiddend under the ashtray.
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