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Post by PhilsWagon » Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:24 pm

It wasn't to bad, just need a couple of correct sized sockets a hammer and patience, you need to do lots of small taps with the hammer on the end of the socket making sure it's going in true...but I did stuff one up, lucky they're only $3.50...

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Post by PhilsWagon » Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:57 pm

So after cleaning all the sludge off the cam belt covers you can see how loose the belts were...

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Post by steptoe » Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:59 pm

Love the surgical gloves :) so often forget to put mine on, takes grotty hands to remember :p

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Post by PhilsWagon » Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:19 pm

Hahaha. Yeah trying to get the black sludge out from under my finger nails sucks so I started wearing them whenever I work on a dirty motor.

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Post by PhilsWagon » Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:25 pm

So i've been quite for a while (stupid work always gets in the way) so i thought i'd post an update...

I pulled the oil pump off and found the mickey mouse gasket had split and was starting to be sucked through so i replaced it, changed the timing belts, idler pulley and tension pulleys, put her all back together and started her up. She fired up straight away but still has the dreaded "tick of death" i've read so much about.

So, to fix or not to fix...Lifters? Oil pump?

If anyone has some advise or experience they want to share about the best way to go about curing the "tick of death" i'd appreciate it.

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Post by El_Freddo » Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:06 pm

On the bottom of the oil pump is (from memory) a 14mm bolt, remove this and place a 3mm spacer behind the spring - there will be a little ball that falls out after the spring when you remove the bolt.

If this doesn't sort it out there's one other trick I know before actually replacing lifters: remove cam covers (bitch job in engine bay!) then remove the bolt that feeds the oil over the cam lobes. In here there should be another spring and ball setup. I'd look into replacing the spring or at the very least cleaning this area out of any gunk.

FROG *should* be able to help out with that spring. You could always try out another spacer but I've not done that in this area, the one in the oil pressure relief valve in the oil pump did the trick for me.

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Post by PhilsWagon » Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:06 pm

Cheers Bennie! I'll let you know how it goes...

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Post by RSR 555 » Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:33 pm

WOW.. how did I miss this thread :( Hi and Welcome :cool:

Nice wagon Phil and if she's EFI then she should be the 89 model (that was the only release of the EFI in AUS) but I must say she looks in fantastic nic.

For the ticking problem, I would have stripped the Oil Pump down and replaced all the seals and gaskets. There is the front main spindle shaft seal, one round o'ring gasket and one mickey mouse o'ring gasket. I would have also checked the spindle shaft for wear, these have a tendency to allow air to be drawn in and this air makes it way to the lash adjusters (Lifters) and causes them to make a hell of a racket. If the noise is there for too long, you can damage them and then they'll need replacing.

Before sripping anything down, just run a bottle of lifter free through the engine.. 9 times out of 10 this will clean them out and the noise should disappear. Sometimes it takes some fresh oil and a run along the highway also.. just to bleed out any excess air that maybe trapped afer pulling bits apart.

The EA82 EFI is the only EA82 to have in my books, they are great when they are new.. after 300,000kms they tend to be noisey and tired.

Would love to see more pics of your car and keep up the good work :)

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Post by steptoe » Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:51 pm

About a month ago auto one in Goldsmith St Goulburn could get new HVLA's in for about 14 bucks each - need 8 and a few hours .......

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Post by PhilsWagon » Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:01 am

Thanks Paul,

I've tried a lifter cleaner but it's still the same and I checked the other seal when I had the pump off and it looked ok, but it has been sitting for about 4 years so who knows :-? I'll try the spacer first because it will be the easiest to do and go from there.

The compliance plate is stamped 2/90 so i'm assuming it is an 89 build but not complianced until 90.

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Post by PhilsWagon » Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:04 am

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Post by PhilsWagon » Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:07 am

Thanks steptoe,

I saw some on ebay for $10 each + postage so probably the same price with that.

There are a couple of good Subaru parts dealers in Canberra so i'll check them out too if I need to go down that path...

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Post by RSR 555 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:12 am

PhilsWagon wrote:I've tried a lifter cleaner but it's still the same and I checked the other seal when I had the pump off and it looked ok, but it has been sitting for about 4 years so who knows :-? I'll try the spacer first because it will be the easiest to do and go from there.
When you say it looked ok, are you saying it was still soft and had a square edge on the running face, as I've had ones look good but after changing them the noise goes away. If you've got good oil and pressure, take it for a good run on the highway and I'm confident the noise will clear up.
PhilsWagon wrote:The compliance plate is stamped 2/90 so i'm assuming it is an 89 build but not complianced until 90.
Yeah.. Built date will be 89 and inside the rear of the LHF door. Best model released in Aus. The only other EFI L.Series model released in Aus was the early 85-86 RX Turbo sedans and the Vortex coupes.
PhilsWagon wrote:Anyway here are some more pics for you...
Thanks for the pics.. it really looks good all over. I did notice your dash doesn't have all the gauges mine has ?? Wonder if it's been changed?
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Post by PhilsWagon » Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:41 am

Yeah when I checked it was still soft and looked ok.

Out of curiosity, what gauges do you have that I don't?

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Post by RSR 555 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:53 am

I'm not at home right now to be 100% sure but I think I have Oil Pressure and Volts. One above the Fuel and the other above the Temp.

I'll try and find a pic on the web
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Post by PhilsWagon » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:06 pm

So I was thinking about this "tick of death" problem and how I really didn't want to start pulling things apart so decided to do another oil flush because hey, it's been sitting for 4 years and who knows when it was last serviced. So I added a can of LIQUI MOLY Engine Detox ($23 from Supercheap Auto) and after about 5 mins of idling the "tick of death is gone!!!!!!

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Post by NachaLuva » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:27 pm

PhilsWagon wrote:I added a can of LIQUI MOLY Engine Detox ($23 from Supercheap Auto) and after about 5 mins of idling the "tick of death is gone!!!!!!
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Post by PhilsWagon » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:31 pm

NachaLuva wrote:Woohoo! :mrgreen:
Yep, that's pretty much what the smile on my face looks like!

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Post by RSR 555 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:18 pm

Great news Phil and glad to hear it work for you. I have in the past, used the flush, then ran the engine with a cheap oil with a can of stop leak (which softens the gaskets and seals) for a day, then dumped it and filled the engine with a good quality oil.

I also recomend you run a can of Upper Cylinder Clean and Engine Oil Flush before you service the engine next.
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Post by PhilsWagon » Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:56 pm

That next service may be a while as it has no rego. I used half a can of throttle body cleaner down a vacuum line and she runs pretty smooth now, still want to run a timing light just to be sure but i've got a few things that need doing before I take it for a rego inspection...

- Brake fluid flush and adjustment (Brakes are pretty much non existent at the moment)
- Suspension bushes
- Tyers
- Engine needs a good clean

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