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MY Wagon Rust and other repairs ready for rego.

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:08 pm
by revmax
This thread is all Bennies fault. :)
But I am gunna fix it.
First repair rear quarter.
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:11 pm
by TOONGA
Is that the left rear area where the mudflap should be?

good luck with the fabrication, lots of metal shaping and welding to come.

TOONGA

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:15 pm
by revmax
yep.
too late to grind and blend it, cause it is dark outside now.

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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:48 pm
by steptoe
Love the workshop floor :D

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:37 pm
by Silverbullet
Fantastic! Looking forward to seeing more of this kind of work, since I'll be doing something similar. Questions: What thickness steel are you using? MIG welding it? what current do you go down to for this thin steel?

Keep the pics coming :)

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:48 pm
by revmax
SB The steel sheet, I think is called zincalume is 1mm thick.
Gassless mig has 6 power settings, for this stuff set on 1 and adjust wire feed to suit.
on 1 it is too powerfull to do a constant run so I just pull the trigger for a second wait another second, kinda pulsing the weld, once ya get going it can work well.
I am only doing a rough job to be structualy sound for reregistering it some time soon.
LOTS more cutting has to be done on the under side of this poor old wagon.

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:56 pm
by Silverbullet
Yeah the white powdery stuff gives the zinc away ;) I've heard pulsing the welder is better for panels rather than running a continuous pool, less heat/distortion etc.

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:53 am
by TOONGA
looking good

only a square metres worth to go :) got to love those wagons

TOONGA

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 4:21 pm
by Cliff R
Gasless is great but from memory when I was doing up a 1970 VW notchback (didnt finish it unfortunately) I had to basically tack weld panels cos the smallest gasless wire was 0.9mm diameter and it definately blew holes in the weld run. If the MIG is a gas/gasless with the 0.6 it is heaps better. I used the 0.6 with a small disposable Argon mix can so I didnt have to hire an expensive D size Argon cylinder.

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:00 pm
by revmax
Yer I'mm gunna have to get more sheet.
Cliff thanks for the tip I have one of those bottles and some wire but will save them for something more important.
If ya have a look at the piece I welded in you can see on the edges I put a backing plate on the edges to take some of the weld.

OK jobs done.
Had a look at and adjusted the rear drum on this side as i had to take the wheel off to drill new holes for the mud flap.
OH the white is just saturn white from a pressure pack

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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:24 pm
by TOONGA
very nice and those rear brakes look brand new.

TOONGA

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:45 pm
by Cliff R
Looks great, good work. my MY needs new rear shoes and wheel cylinders as the fluid has leaked onto the pads and they stick and are noisy.
Dont forget the right regulator when using the gas wire and disposable bottle either.

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:57 pm
by revmax
Toonga yer they look like they havent done much.
Cliff I have a reg and a dispsable gas bottle, Have only used it on Aluminum though.
Gasweld has some 0.8mm flux core wire and as i just ran out I will get some from gasweld tomorrow.

done heaps of repairs today but forgot to take a lot of photos.

This one was blasted last week.

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Cardboard template made.

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Steel cut welded in place, dillberrys ground off, smear some seam sealer around and drill the hole.

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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:06 pm
by revmax
AHHH remember this one.
Managed to cut the rust out with a 5" makita angle grinder, it is 5" but has a 4" motor which makes it ideal for getting into tight spots. The cutting wheel was one of them 1mm thick ones.

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Got the metal stiched in but ran out of wire, the welds were a bit like duck poo and I am thinking I should have used my shorter 15A extension lead that I used earlier in the day.

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:19 pm
by El_Freddo
Looking good there mate! Much more rust or is this just the tip of the iceberg?
revmax wrote:This thread is all Bennies fault. :)
My pleasure ;)
steptoe wrote:Love the workshop floor :D
It should be good in summer!!

Cheers

Bennie

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:38 pm
by revmax
Bennie, yer she has a whole lot of rust and if we get 12 months of fun out of her I will be happy. I can see more rust when i look up the holes in difficult spots most of it doesen't look structual but I am sure it will later down the track as I plan on driving this one on beaches it hasent got much of a chance.


The work shop floor got wet friday night so I laid on cardboard for the repairs.

Got some more wire today but probably won't get to her till later in the week.

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:39 pm
by revmax
ah that side is almost done
used a broom handle shaped to bend the sheet onto place then used a pneumatic chisel with the end ground down to a ball to peen the metal into the corner.
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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:08 pm
by alang
Bunnings has the gasweld wire in 0.8 gas less as well and i think supercheap has come on board to good to price around some times. the repairs are looking good

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:53 pm
by revmax
Yer but the blokes at Gasweld know what they are on about and if I have a question to ask they will answer it. Try to get an answer from staff at Bunnings or supercheap. Yer right!

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:50 pm
by alang
your right about the no help policy, just thinking of the running cost the closest gasweld to me would be like driving from coff's to bonville and passing bunnings and supershit on the way