Silverbullets' resto: Engine, gearbox, suspension
- Silverbullet
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Not a nut, but an extraneous steel bracket which I included in the box of parts for rebuilding, I thought it was a support for one end of the throttle shaft but it seems not, so I dunno what it's for But it's all nice and shiny gold zinc now. Don't worry, no chance of it falling anywhere dangerous.steptoe wrote:coulda send you a few pics of back-together twins if he needed. Old habits die hard Sam - is that a nut I see sitting down the open intake port
Picked the rig up today, man am I happy There's a few little things I need to fix before I bolt it up namely the horrifically rusted heater pipe, not sure what I'll do here; I can't get the pipe out of the manifold so I think I'm going to have to cut the bad bit off and solder/braze a piece of brass or something onto it to bring it back to the right length. Also one of the coolant pipes under the base of the carbies is really bad, will replace it with the single stainless barb I have left. Here's some more porno for those who are interested Don't worry about the smudged red heatshrink, I will cover that with black heatshrink.
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Will it ever end!?
-EA81 TWIN CARB!!!!
-L series 5 speed
-Custom paint job
-2" lift
-Full custom re-wire
-L series front end
-EA81 TWIN CARB!!!!
-L series 5 speed
-Custom paint job
-2" lift
-Full custom re-wire
-L series front end
- steptoe
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those heater pipes do NOT come out !! I have cut one short and just used longer heater hose. Looks like the thermostat gasket face needs a little TLC
I never got the end bracket with my twins - you too ?? I found a rose joint tie rod end looking item at a bearing suply fitted the shaft perfectly, then knocked up a crude bracket off the thermostat upper bolt
I never got the end bracket with my twins - you too ?? I found a rose joint tie rod end looking item at a bearing suply fitted the shaft perfectly, then knocked up a crude bracket off the thermostat upper bolt
- Silverbullet
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Hey Jonno, they DO come out! Today I was fretting about that steel pipe, having cut the bad end off and looking up the tube with a light, seeing endless stalactites of rust hanging down I wasn't happy. I planned to drill it out and put a copper pipe in there but I had no 16mm drill, quick phone call to an engineer friend of mine and popped round, he had the whole manifold in the vice, two vice grips on the stub of steel pipe, twist and turn and she popped right out! Nice clean smooth hole left behind, didn't even need to drill it to tap a 5/8" BSP thread in it ready for a brass 1/2" hose barb, and run rubber hose up to it from the heater. Pics below.
Also spent today playing around with doing my own electrolysis zinc plating and it turned out amazingly well. Just did a few bolts to start with, now doing a few other brackets and such. At about 8 PM tonight the twins got bolted in to their final resting place (with no rags in sight) genuine gaskets throughout. Found I might have some issues keeping the coil pack where I had it; couldn't bolt the manifold up with it in place because of coolant hoses in the area being in the way. Now the coil pack is off, manifold on, can't get the coil pack back in place 5mm more clearance and I would have been fine.
Tomorrow will be making up ignition leads (once I get the coil pack back on) and testing out the EDIS for the first time Stay tuned.
Stalactites of rust, couldn't live knowing this was in my engine so it had to go
Here's the rusty bugger, straight into the bin
Nice clean hole left behind
Nice clean 5/8" BSP thread
Also spent today playing around with doing my own electrolysis zinc plating and it turned out amazingly well. Just did a few bolts to start with, now doing a few other brackets and such. At about 8 PM tonight the twins got bolted in to their final resting place (with no rags in sight) genuine gaskets throughout. Found I might have some issues keeping the coil pack where I had it; couldn't bolt the manifold up with it in place because of coolant hoses in the area being in the way. Now the coil pack is off, manifold on, can't get the coil pack back in place 5mm more clearance and I would have been fine.
Tomorrow will be making up ignition leads (once I get the coil pack back on) and testing out the EDIS for the first time Stay tuned.
Stalactites of rust, couldn't live knowing this was in my engine so it had to go
Here's the rusty bugger, straight into the bin
Nice clean hole left behind
Nice clean 5/8" BSP thread
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Will it ever end!?
-EA81 TWIN CARB!!!!
-L series 5 speed
-Custom paint job
-2" lift
-Full custom re-wire
-L series front end
-EA81 TWIN CARB!!!!
-L series 5 speed
-Custom paint job
-2" lift
-Full custom re-wire
-L series front end
- Silverbullet
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Experiments in zinc elctro plating
The first bolts I plated; they come out looking dusty dull grey at first but just need a buff up with some green scouring pad with bolt in the drill and they come up real nice and shiny
And the twins in their final resting place
The first bolts I plated; they come out looking dusty dull grey at first but just need a buff up with some green scouring pad with bolt in the drill and they come up real nice and shiny
And the twins in their final resting place
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Will it ever end!?
-EA81 TWIN CARB!!!!
-L series 5 speed
-Custom paint job
-2" lift
-Full custom re-wire
-L series front end
-EA81 TWIN CARB!!!!
-L series 5 speed
-Custom paint job
-2" lift
-Full custom re-wire
-L series front end
- Silverbullet
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Will do Jonno, it's pleasingly simple and not much special gear required which I was happy about Dunno about the factory green finish though, I'm one step away from the shiny gold chromate color but the chemical to do that is pretty nasty, not sure if its even available in Australia due to our nanny state laws. Also that Alternator is going! some time soon. Once I test run the engine I will get that A/C bracket blasted and coated, get the A/C compressor looked at and fit the new alt so it will be all sparkly and new.
Today a little more progress; got the coil pack back on happily by lopping off one stud/corner of my coil mounting platform to clear hoses. It's still plenty strong enough, I maintain that you could lift the car by that bracket
Also made up some ignition leads, man what a pain! Every step of making your own ignition leads is a right pain in the behind. I only did because I couldn't find leads with the correct coil terminal on them for the Ford coil pack, had to source the crimps from the UK. Then the rubber boots for the coil pack terminals, the only ones available are MSD same goes for the spark plug rubbers and because they are MSD they are massively oversized things for V8 hot rods...then assembling them the lead doesn't like being pushed through the undersized hole in the rubbers (plenty of lube required) Got there in the end though. Next time I think I'll just buy the normal leads, lop the dizzy end off and put my own on.
Next I decided to test out my EDIS for the first time ever and see if it would make spark. I moved the sensor to a more handy position so I could use my other trigger wheel in the drill to test the system without having to crank the engine over. First time round absolutely no spark...bugger! I swapped the crank sensor wires around because the sensor is polarized, knowing my luck got it wrong the first time. Tried again with the drill and spark plugs out on display; got one or two sparks from each side of the coil pack then it stopped This was with the Megajolt ECU disconnected, as the EDIS module can run the engine on its own at a fixed timing position. I think the EDIS module is not happy about something, as it gives me a few sparks then stops. Disconnecting the battery and trying it again sees the same thing happen every time. Well I'm kinda relieved it works at all, now have to figure out what its not happy about.
Lots of hoses in close proximity to the coil pack back side
4 x spark leads all made up and fitted nicely
Today a little more progress; got the coil pack back on happily by lopping off one stud/corner of my coil mounting platform to clear hoses. It's still plenty strong enough, I maintain that you could lift the car by that bracket
Also made up some ignition leads, man what a pain! Every step of making your own ignition leads is a right pain in the behind. I only did because I couldn't find leads with the correct coil terminal on them for the Ford coil pack, had to source the crimps from the UK. Then the rubber boots for the coil pack terminals, the only ones available are MSD same goes for the spark plug rubbers and because they are MSD they are massively oversized things for V8 hot rods...then assembling them the lead doesn't like being pushed through the undersized hole in the rubbers (plenty of lube required) Got there in the end though. Next time I think I'll just buy the normal leads, lop the dizzy end off and put my own on.
Next I decided to test out my EDIS for the first time ever and see if it would make spark. I moved the sensor to a more handy position so I could use my other trigger wheel in the drill to test the system without having to crank the engine over. First time round absolutely no spark...bugger! I swapped the crank sensor wires around because the sensor is polarized, knowing my luck got it wrong the first time. Tried again with the drill and spark plugs out on display; got one or two sparks from each side of the coil pack then it stopped This was with the Megajolt ECU disconnected, as the EDIS module can run the engine on its own at a fixed timing position. I think the EDIS module is not happy about something, as it gives me a few sparks then stops. Disconnecting the battery and trying it again sees the same thing happen every time. Well I'm kinda relieved it works at all, now have to figure out what its not happy about.
Lots of hoses in close proximity to the coil pack back side
4 x spark leads all made up and fitted nicely
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Will it ever end!?
-EA81 TWIN CARB!!!!
-L series 5 speed
-Custom paint job
-2" lift
-Full custom re-wire
-L series front end
-EA81 TWIN CARB!!!!
-L series 5 speed
-Custom paint job
-2" lift
-Full custom re-wire
-L series front end
- Silverbullet
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Bennie, that's what I originally thought so I disconnected the Megajolt ECU; the Ford EDIS chip can run the engine on its own fixed ad 10 degrees BTDC, but it didn't fix it. I suspected my "star earthing" system of using one single point for every earth may have been sending errant coil trigger pulses back through my sensor cable shield interfering with the sensor signal but separating them didn't fix it either. I've got a few other things I can troubleshoot yet before I go running to the Megajolt forum for a single "HELP ME!!" post
*Edit* Think I just found my problem:
I followed the autosportlabs wiring diagram to a T, by connecting pin 7 to cable shield AND ground, which apparently is wrong. As I originally suspected
*Edit* Think I just found my problem:
From hereI discovered a few years ago an ERROR on the autosportlabs wiring diagrams......they show pin 7 connected to earth and shields.....DO NOT DO THIS....connect to shields only. This error causes an earth loop in the shield cable and reduces / eliminates the shield effect can result in dodgy PIP / SAW signals.
I followed the autosportlabs wiring diagram to a T, by connecting pin 7 to cable shield AND ground, which apparently is wrong. As I originally suspected
Will it ever end!?
-EA81 TWIN CARB!!!!
-L series 5 speed
-Custom paint job
-2" lift
-Full custom re-wire
-L series front end
-EA81 TWIN CARB!!!!
-L series 5 speed
-Custom paint job
-2" lift
-Full custom re-wire
-L series front end
After reading through the thread, two words came to mind.. Holly crap. Holly crap. Puts what we have done to shame. Very nice work. Holly crap.
rtcb65
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- El_Freddo
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Rick it doesn't put what the subie boys did to shame - I'm sure Silverbullet got a lot of inspiration from reading your build threads when they were thriving!rtcb65 wrote:After reading through the thread, two words came to mind.. Holly crap. Holly crap. Puts what we have done to shame. Very nice work. Holly crap.
SB: have you had time to modify that wiring with the shield to see if it makes a difference?
Cheers
Bennie
- Silverbullet
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That is a truly humbling thing to read, coming from one of the Subie boys But I couldn't possibly agree that it puts your work to shame! The cars you guys built and documented on this forum were literally the sole inspiration for this project, to see the effort and craftsmanship you guys put in gave me something to aspire to And this car even has some genuine Subie boys parts in it (windscreen corner patch panel and overhead console) so does that make our cars related as well?rtcb65 wrote:After reading through the thread, two words came to mind.. Holly crap. Holly crap. Puts what we have done to shame. Very nice work. Holly crap.
Too right, although my threads are a bit more rambling (spam spam spam) I can't seem to explain something without writing a novel about it.El_Freddo wrote:Rick it doesn't put what the subie boys did to shame - I'm sure Silverbullet got a lot of inspiration from reading your build threads when they were thriving!
SB: have you had time to modify that wiring with the shield to see if it makes a difference?
Cheers
Bennie
Also, I haven't had a chance to touch anything since the weekend, with everything else I do in my 4.5 hours of free time after work It's all I've been thinking about while I'm at work though
Will it ever end!?
-EA81 TWIN CARB!!!!
-L series 5 speed
-Custom paint job
-2" lift
-Full custom re-wire
-L series front end
-EA81 TWIN CARB!!!!
-L series 5 speed
-Custom paint job
-2" lift
-Full custom re-wire
-L series front end
- Silverbullet
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I know it's not engine related but, some amazing genuine parts goodness came my way today So the rear windscreen glass will be going in soon as well, which leaves me with only 1 window rubber I don't have. Probably going to have to go the custom made route.
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Will it ever end!?
-EA81 TWIN CARB!!!!
-L series 5 speed
-Custom paint job
-2" lift
-Full custom re-wire
-L series front end
-EA81 TWIN CARB!!!!
-L series 5 speed
-Custom paint job
-2" lift
-Full custom re-wire
-L series front end
- Silverbullet
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Japan stockEl_Freddo wrote:Where'd you source that neat package from SB??
Good find!
Cheers
Bennie
Also, couldn't resist coming in to post this, it's not running just yet but this is a huge step. I re-did some of the EDIS module wiring and bingo If it wasn't for that error in the wiring diagram I followed it would have worked first time
You'll have to excuse the spaghetti looking mess at the end; it really isn't as bad as it looks trust me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4amgbqS ... e=youtu.be
Will it ever end!?
-EA81 TWIN CARB!!!!
-L series 5 speed
-Custom paint job
-2" lift
-Full custom re-wire
-L series front end
-EA81 TWIN CARB!!!!
-L series 5 speed
-Custom paint job
-2" lift
-Full custom re-wire
-L series front end
- Silverbullet
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:twisted::twisted::mrgreen::mrgreen:
IT'S ALIIIIIIIIVE!!!
From now on it's all hands on deck, all out sprint to the finish line so I can drive this thing !!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YGQLhp ... e=youtu.be
IT'S ALIIIIIIIIVE!!!
From now on it's all hands on deck, all out sprint to the finish line so I can drive this thing !!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YGQLhp ... e=youtu.be
Will it ever end!?
-EA81 TWIN CARB!!!!
-L series 5 speed
-Custom paint job
-2" lift
-Full custom re-wire
-L series front end
-EA81 TWIN CARB!!!!
-L series 5 speed
-Custom paint job
-2" lift
-Full custom re-wire
-L series front end