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Mine is still going fine. Just installing an electronic boost controller to run 15psi so we'll see how it goes now

dibs wrote:so hows the box going you still smiling????????????????????

dibs

Yep mate it is still good...
On other day about 4 weeks ago, I had to pull up an Commodore on a car trailer on my mates farm where he couldn't pull it up with his Rodeo (would loose traction on grass) so I wacked in low range and pulled it up - works like a treat - he was gobsmacked..
Cheers
AP

thanks m8 i got a forry box now need a doner box and get to it

dibs

Hey AP..

I have a 8 bolt Outback gearbox (99 model) here that has bearing problems and wish to pull apart at some stage.. Do you think the EA D/R internals will fit?

Cheers,
Paul

RSR 555 wrote:I have a 8 bolt Outback gearbox (99 model) here that has bearing problems and wish to pull apart at some stage.. Do you think the EA D/R internals will fit?

Paul I'm pretty sure the internal layout is still the same, just the number of bolts to mount the engine have changed.

If it's a 4.11 or 4.44 diff ratio, to fit the L low range you'll have to shave some meat from the crown wheel. I'm not sure which section needs to be removed as I've not done it or seen it done myself. Peejay will be able to elaborate more I'm sure.

Cheers

Bennie

El_Freddo wrote:Paul I'm pretty sure the internal layout is still the same, just the number of bolts to mount the engine have changed.

If it's a 4.11 or 4.44 diff ratio, to fit the L low range you'll have to shave some meat from the crown wheel. I'm not sure which section needs to be removed as I've not done it or seen it done myself. Peejay will be able to elaborate more I'm sure.

Cheers

Bennie

I really hope so.. as for the ratio, I'll grab the number off the box and see. I remember building a 4.4 many years ago and have to skim some of the crown wheel were it bolted to the diff centre flange.. Thanks bud

Just curious, is it a certain type of EA D/R box needed to be used as a donor? I bought 2 EA D/R boxes to use on my 2 liberty boxes. The shaft that the 2 dual range counter gears sit on is thinner in diameter than the shaft from my EJ box. I was so hyped to be able to test it in the mud, but now I can't do it & need to buy another 2 gearboxes. Doh.

s3gti wrote:Just curious, is it a certain type of EA D/R box needed to be used as a donor? I bought 2 EA D/R boxes to use on my 2 liberty boxes. The shaft that the 2 dual range counter gears sit on is thinner in diameter than the shaft from my EJ box. I was so hyped to be able to test it in the mud, but now I can't do it & need to buy another 2 gearboxes. Doh.

G'day s3gti, welcome to the forum!

What year is your EJ gearbox from? And the EA boxes? I've not heard of this happening before.

Have a read in the Subaru Chat part of the forum on how to host images and drop a couple in here to show us what you're talking about exactly

I'm sure we'll nut it out without the need of another set of gearboxes.

Cheers

Bennie

Lets see if I can do this right, these images should be able to tell the story.



These are hopefully the gears in question. It worked.

These are the 2 sets of low range gears. the liberty is on the right- with the writing on it.


The two shafts side by side


& an end-on pic showing the different diameters.


The liberty gearbox is out of a 91 liberty & the other box is an ea series dual range box. Perhaps it is out of an 1800 wagon, or brumby. I know that it has a final drive of 3.7:1, & that now I have 2 of them in pieces.

You ned to get an L series 5 speed box and use the low range gears out of that. the brumby/ wagon /MY series gearset will not work.

TOONGA

TOONGA wrote:You ned to get an L series 5 speed box and use the low range gears out of that. the brumby/ wagon /MY series gearset will not work.

Good point Toonga!

s3gti, the gearboxes you've got for the swap - are they a 4 speed or a 5 speed? Got pics of the gearbox casings? I should be able to let you know if it's 4spd or 5spd by the casings if you don't have one that's still together

Cheers

Bennie

Pretty sure they are a 5 speed box, same number of cogs as the liberty box. I think it may be like toonga says, the boxes are probably from an 1800 wagon, or brumby. I wish I knew that before I bought the bloody things. Oh well, s#@t happens. thanks for your help.

s3gti wrote:Pretty sure they are a 5 speed box, same number of cogs as the liberty box. I think it may be like toonga says, the boxes are probably from an 1800 wagon, or brumby. I wish I knew that before I bought the bloody things. Oh well, s#@t happens. thanks for your help.

Here's the problem - the MY or brumbys only came out with a 4 speed gearbox in high and low range 4wd...

Can you load us up a couple of images of these gearboxes? And if you've got them split a shot like this would help:





I hope you're not giving up on this!

Cheers

Bennie

Hello!
you seem to be good at subaru gearbox.
I have a question...
is there a needle bearing on the inputshaft between the HI and LOW speed?


Im sorry if my English is bad and some word get wrong... I live in sweden

My problem is a bearing noise when i drive in HI but not in LOW so my guess is a bearing between the HI and LOW.

Thanks!

To the best of my knowledge, the bearings supporting the input shaft are the big wide thing to the right, and the thin one in the wall of the casing behind the diff.
When the synchro is engaged, it locks the 2 pieces of the shaft together.
However, when the synchro is the other way, the load goes via the side shaft via the gears which is hidden behind in that pic.
That short shaft is on bearings also, so that might be the problem area.

Anyone disagree?

wagonist wrote:Anyone disagree?

Nope, I reckon you got it smack on. The issue must be with one of the bearings on the layshafts that the driving gears are mounted to.

What speed/speeds does this noise appear?

There are needle bearings but they're on the other part of the low range setup:



(left one is the L series unit) This is the other gear that completes the low range system, the shaft it's on has the needle bearings but these wouldn't be under load in high range, thus wouldn't be making any noise.

I'd be looking at other bearings or other things on your subi to solve what it is.

If you can give us more information about speeds/engine loads when the noise occurs that would be helpful too.

Cheers

Bennie

El_Freddo wrote:Nope, I reckon you got it smack on. The issue must be with one of the bearings on the layshafts that the driving gears are mounted to.

What speed/speeds does this noise appear?

There are needle bearings but they're on the other part of the low range setup:



(left one is the L series unit) This is the other gear that completes the low range system, the shaft it's on has the needle bearings but these wouldn't be under load in high range, thus wouldn't be making any noise.

I'd be looking at other bearings or other things on your subi to solve what it is.

If you can give us more information about speeds/engine loads when the noise occurs that would be helpful too.

Cheers

Bennie

Oh, i will do my best to wright.
So if i get this right, in HI gear the input shaft is one unit. And in LOW gear it split the shaft and the power goes out to this little axle on the side?

The noise is from neutral and most when you have loads at drive train.
If i stand in neutral and releases the clutch you can here the sound change and the when press down clutch it stops.
(bearings in clutch is new)
If i do the same in LOW, the sound don't change.

I thought that it was like in LOW the input shaft was one piece and in HI it split and it was like a over gear on all gears.

fårwildrajv wrote:So if i get this right, in HI gear the input shaft is one unit. And in LOW gear it split the shaft and the power goes out to this little axle on the side?

Correct.

fårwildrajv wrote:The noise is from neutral and most when you have loads at drive train.
If i stand in neutral and releases the clutch you can here the sound change and the when press down clutch it stops.
(bearings in clutch is new)

This to me would point to a faulty throw out bearing, even if it's new. Was the unit new (and a good brand?) or second hand (used?)

fårwildrajv wrote:If i do the same in LOW, the sound don't change.

This leads me off the throw out bearing as the cause... I've got no idea what could be doing this.

Cheers

Bennie

El_Freddo wrote:
This leads me off the throw out bearing as the cause... I've got no idea what could be doing this.

Cheers

Bennie

No it is strange that the noise only is there at HI.
Well i see what to do at this. Im looking for a used gearbox and replace.

Thanks and have fun with subaru

fårwildrajv wrote:No it is strange that the noise only is there at HI.
Well i see what to do at this. Im looking for a used gearbox and replace.

Thanks and have fun with subaru

Have you resolved the issue you're having? Does the noise appear any gear or specific speed?
Cheers
AP