VW To offroad buggy

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Post by El_Freddo » Sun Mar 08, 2009 5:02 pm

G'day Kappage, to get the seats out they simply slide off the rails as if you're adjusting you're seating position, dunno which way though.

When you make your frame - make sure you have some sort of support bar to the rear suspension frame, otherwise your floor pan tries to become a banana over time and will crack!
seagull wrote: I am going to flip the crown wheel and fit the motor behind the seat. I need to get the harness over to Dave to get the harness cut down shortly.
Dad did this in his Mkll fast back for rallying back when i was a kid. He was running a 13B rotary and modified the torsion bars to fit the motor in. He also used some ford calipers etc to fit rear discs, I think there's a much easier conversion available today (he did this in the early 80's).

Also if you're going to go real hard, although you're in a very light buggy it might not be necessary, Dad had reinforced the rear swing arms to avoid bending one mid-race.

These things are heaps of fun, and you'll notice many similarities of the early subaru drivetrain when you get to know them. I first drove a Mini K when I was ten, then fixed up a VW dune buggy/paddock basher ("the buggy") with dad and learned to drive un-supervised by the time I was eleven. The years after that were put to use learning how to thrash a rear wheel drive :twisted:

The buggy is now waiting for some brakes replaced on it and for one of us to get the motor going again, its also the earlier model with the rear swing arms. We've never really had it going since we reinforced the entire framework - its solid as a rock now!

I'll try and get some pics up for you in the next week.

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Post by gx_rex » Sun Mar 08, 2009 5:27 pm

seagull wrote:I am fitting a ej22 to my sand racer ( tube frame ) and a 911s gear box. I am going to flip the crown wheel and fit the motor behind the seat. I need to get the harness over to Dave to get the harness cut down shortly.
Any advantage to doing this than using the FWD box that came out of my car that my dad gifted you the other day? Would have thought using the subi box may have been stronger as well as easier as no need for adapter plates etc.

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Post by SCOOBIDOO » Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:45 pm

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I started out with what you have and finished like this..it runs an rx turbo subaru engine
with 12 psi boost...i must say youll be impressed with the power to weight

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Post by seagull » Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:07 pm

The subaru box is very week , + the ratios are not the best . I have pulled the box down to have a look at the set up ..an ej22 box would be stronger , but still the ratios

did you sell that adapter plate you had for the ea82 , some one just called me looking for one on AVD

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Post by gx_rex » Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:59 pm

seagull wrote:The subaru box is very week , + the ratios are not the best . I have pulled the box down to have a look at the set up ..an ej22 box would be stronger , but still the ratios

did you sell that adapter plate you had for the ea82 , some one just called me looking for one on AVD

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Post by Kappage » Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:55 pm

just as a quick update this is what i have done this weekend.

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Post by Thumpage44 » Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:01 pm

Looks likes what happens when an elephant dies. :D

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Post by chriSTIan » Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:30 am

Neil
whats the fiberglass bodied vw ur mate is selling?
Is it a road going one?
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Post by gx_rex » Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:25 am

Kappage wrote:Hey, sorry about this but can i get a photo form the underneath, i am curious as to where the bars that start at he back go under teh engine, where do they mount on the other end?
Sorry missed this post. Will take pics when i get home tonight if I remember. I dont know if the IRS floor pan has the same setup as swing axle but the gearbox mounts via 2 horns. My frame has 2 bars that are welded onto the side of these.

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Post by seagull » Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:51 pm

Christian , yes its a road going * toad * it not the best rig mate & needs heaps of work done . I did say heaps !

Now Gx rexs dad has a vw based kit car , kind of cool in a funny way

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Post by Kappage » Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:54 pm

Well i finally got the Pipe bender from my mate for a while so this afternoon i am welding up the front struts but i am finding it incredibly hard to weld on an angle, but i am managing! ive got a mig but i hate using the bloody thing!

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Post by D3V1L » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:15 pm

make sure it all gets welded properly...nothing worse then welds breaking, and life is in danger......lol

use the mig

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Post by Kappage » Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:10 am

well the bottom welds are perfect while im finding it difficult because the metal/flux just flows down! im sure ill figure it out.

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Fine ill use the Mig dave. i have the bloody thing

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Post by gx_rex » Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:34 am

seagull wrote:Christian , yes its a road going * toad * it not the best rig mate & needs heaps of work done . I did say heaps !

Now Gx rexs dad has a vw based kit car , kind of cool in a funny way
Yeah the kit car is up for sale. Ferrari Dino replica with an EJ22 mounted in the back. I think he is chasing around $3k for it.

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Post by Kappage » Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:56 pm

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Theres kind of a V cut onthe top so it sits under it aswell so when its pushes up it doesnt just push on the welds.

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Post by Kappage » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:10 pm

Sorry for the lack of updates i have been really busy this past week, i probably wont get much done until the end of next weekend...

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Post by Kappage » Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:36 am

Ok, i cant really do anything on this until i get my ratchet strap back which will sadly be in a couple of weeks... The other this is not this weekend but next i get my seats so i can figure out how high i need to make my roll cage!!

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Post by seagull » Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:58 am

when you want to fit a subaru motor in the rear let me know as I have a adapter plate & subaru to vw fly wheel.

I also have a EJ22 motor & full loom $250.00

removed from a liberty for a turbo conversion

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Post by El_Freddo » Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:02 pm

El_Freddo wrote:When you make your frame - make sure you have some sort of support bar to the rear suspension frame, otherwise your floor pan tries to become a banana over time and will crack!
Here are the pics I hoped to get up earlier, starting with the support bar that I'm talking about above:

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How it sits now:

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The rear view, we usually have the rear tyres on the other way round to widen the track:

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^ also note the horizontal bar near the bottom of the roll cage - this was put in as the rear of the roll cage was sagging, after doing this the floor pan started to crack due to flexing. This was when we realised the buggy had been built without being used before we bought it. That has been sorted now and new rails for the seats have been added, only problem is that we've never had it going since the strengthening of the frame work happened :(

Also make sure you get the height of the rollcage right. I didn't know this for a long time but dad actually increased the height of the cage just after we got it as it was dangerously low.

We've had many good times in this unit, especially in the wet!

Biggest problem we had was front wheel traction and lack of an LSD...

Cheers

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Post by Kappage » Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:22 pm

Yea ive mainly been holding back on serious work because i should get my seats this weekend!

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