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Post by RSR 555 » Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:54 pm

I can check it out for ya :) but it will have to wait till next Friday?

We all live faily close in Perth so no big worries there :)

I have sent and received many items to the UK.. one being the Murtaya :cool: (and other places OS) so if you need it organised? just PM me the details :) but just remember I work away from home and not always around ;)
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Post by 1111giles » Fri Oct 15, 2010 4:06 am

RSR 555 wrote:I can check it out for ya :) but it will have to wait till next Friday?

We all live faily close in Perth so no big worries there :)

I have sent and received many items to the UK.. one being the Murtaya :cool: (and other places OS) so if you need it organised? just PM me the details :) but just remember I work away from home and not always around ;)
That's really good of you if you would you do this for me. Jonno (Steptoe) has offered to send across to WA his extended thermo.
Maybe you could liase with Guyph about the kit he has AND decide what kind of overhaul is required - time isn't a problem to me.
I will be out of the UK 1st week Nov. just so you are aware.
Many thanks!:mrgreen:
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Post by 1111giles » Fri Oct 15, 2010 4:19 am

guyph_01 wrote:Sry mate, Had a read at the thread 2day and didn't get any pm from you Giles. Like I said I got everything except the thermostat housing thing, And the rack needs a rebuilt.

P/s Pump
P/s lines
Pump bracket + some bolts
Main Pulley + bolt
Used belt
P/s Rack but with missing ends on one side I think
Ok - not sure what happened re the pm.....
Please let me know what you want $ for the kit you have and pm me your email address. I can pay you via paypal or other - but bank transfers can tot up the bank charges a bit !
I'm sure Trevor will vouch for me if you need any re-assurances!
Are you OK to work along with RSR for me on this? See his comments on here.
Look forward to hearing from you.:D
Any chance of some images of the parts ?
And can anyone post up images of the setup in situ in a EA81 Brumby - ideally with A/C fitted as well? Would be interested to see the pulley arrangements.

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Post by 1111giles » Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:02 am

Just seen the 'how to' fit power steering to a Brumby thread build up. (good stuff there from rtcb65 Redneck Rick)
showthread.php?t=17231
Its nearly 11pm here and dark ! so cant check if I have the 3 holes required for the P/S pump or not. (And No Jonno I am not scared of the Dark !)
I am guessing it would be possible to fabricate (correctly of course) some bracketary to hold the pump IF the 3 holes are not there, picking mountings up from elsewhere - not standard but hey any port in a storm eh?
OR (and my prefered option) is it possible to machine the 3 holes into a head if the head is removed??? ie is there enough material there to do this?? I cant imagine that Subaru made different heads more like just didn't machine the holes in - for certain batches.
Anyone agree?? Please bear in mind I have not seen the actual 'hardware' involved here, but being a development engineer with access to a full machine shop and fabrication facility I tend not to be put off by problems such as.
Appreciate yr observations and comments guy's.
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Post by RSR 555 » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:13 pm

1111giles wrote:That's really good of you if you would you do this for me. Jonno (Steptoe) has offered to send across to WA his extended thermo.
Maybe you could liase with Guyph about the kit he has AND decide what kind of overhaul is required - time isn't a problem to me.
I will be out of the UK 1st week Nov. just so you are aware.
Many thanks!:mrgreen:
I can liase with Guyph for you no probs :) He lives only about 20mins away from me. I can also take lots of pictures if you like? and give you an independent assessment of the parts condition.
1111giles wrote:Just seen the 'how to' fit power steering to a Brumby thread build up. (good stuff there from rtcb65 Redneck Rick)
showthread.php?t=17231
Its nearly 11pm here and dark ! so cant check if I have the 3 holes required for the P/S pump or not. (And No Jonno I am not scared of the Dark !)
I am guessing it would be possible to fabricate (correctly of course) some bracketary to hold the pump IF the 3 holes are not there, picking mountings up from elsewhere - not standard but hey any port in a storm eh?
OR (and my prefered option) is it possible to machine the 3 holes into a head if the head is removed??? ie is there enough material there to do this?? I cant imagine that Subaru made different heads more like just didn't machine the holes in - for certain batches.
Anyone agree?? Please bear in mind I have not seen the actual 'hardware' involved here, but being a development engineer with access to a full machine shop and fabrication facility I tend not to be put off by problems such as.
Appreciate yr observations and comments guy's.
Most EA81s built after 1984 have the 3 holes in the RHS head already but if yours doesn't then there is plenty of meat in the head to drill and tap them. Best to remove the radiator but still may need a 90deg angled drill.

I just fitted powersteering to my Brumby last time home and the only real trouble I had was 1. the crank pulley, my Brumby had aftermarket a/c and the belt was a multi-v type. and 2. was the vacuum pipe for the brake booster which had to relocate to the passengers side of the intake manifold. Can take pics too if required?

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Post by steptoe » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:57 pm

Ah yeah 3 pulley jobbie needed too !

The boss is cast just needs drilling and tapping, and from memory we got caught out after fitting engine to car to discover the head did not have the holes. Was simple enough to do. (i think - it was about ten years ago)

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Post by phantomD » Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:03 pm

RSR 555 wrote:2. was the vacuum pipe for the brake booster which had to relocate to the passengers side of the intake manifold. Can take pics too if required?
Yes please!

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Post by guyph_01 » Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:44 pm

Yep no problem to work with Paul to get the parts checked etc:)
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Post by 1111giles » Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:26 am

Thanks to all of you for the reply's.
Looks like we can go on this one.

RSR - thanks and yes please liase with guyph and let me know what your assesment is. I guess you guys will have a chat over a coffee or 2 ! (mines white with 1 sugar!)

The good news from this side is the 3 holes are all there in the RHS head in my truck :mrgreen:
So we can simply bolt up all the bracketary as mother Subaru intended !

Guyph - pls pm me how much you want for the set up so I can orgainise that for you.

Just so you know I am all over the place (in the UK and overseas) over the next 3-4 weeks so may not respond as quick as normal to any question or request.

Please can you post up the images as suggested it all helps!

I know I've already said this before but I gotta have the full monty kit ready to fit, so if we have to slow things down so as to get it all together or find extra parts - then that's ok by me.

Big thanks guys !
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Post by RSR 555 » Sat Oct 16, 2010 3:09 am

phantomD wrote:Yes please!
No probs sir :cool: I would have taking pics of the process but I was in a hurry to get it in. I will get some pics and try and explain as best as possible :)
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Post by RSR 555 » Sat Oct 16, 2010 3:23 am

1111giles wrote:Thanks to all of you for the reply's.
Looks like we can go on this one.

RSR - thanks and yes please liase with guyph and let me know what your assesment is. I guess you guys will have a chat over a coffee or 2 ! (mines white with 1 sugar!)

The good news from this side is the 3 holes are all there in the RHS head in my truck :mrgreen:
So we can simply bolt up all the bracketary as mother Subaru intended !

Guyph - pls pm me how much you want for the set up so I can orgainise that for you.

Just so you know I am all over the place (in the UK and overseas) over the next 3-4 weeks so may not respond as quick as normal to any question or request.

Please can you post up the images as suggested it all helps!

I know I've already said this before but I gotta have the full monty kit ready to fit, so if we have to slow things down so as to get it all together or find extra parts - then that's ok by me.

Big thanks guys !
No worries Giles :cool: As I've just completed my p/str conversion in my Brumby, I can make sure all of the bits are in a box before they are sent OS. I'll try and take a bunch of pics to help with the fitting side of things. It's good to hear your RHS head has bolt holes.. You may need to make sure there is not dirt/crap inside :)

I have a good friend who rebuilds all of my customers racks (mainly Liberty ones as they are prone to leak) He isn't the cheapest around but he uses good quality parts and I can (and he does with warranty but not for OS) guaranty he does a great job. I can get you a quote if you like?
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Post by 1111giles » Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:59 pm

RSR 555 wrote:No worries Giles :cool: As I've just completed my p/str conversion in my Brumby, I can make sure all of the bits are in a box before they are sent OS. I'll try and take a bunch of pics to help with the fitting side of things. It's good to hear your RHS head has bolt holes.. You may need to make sure there is not dirt/crap inside :)

I have a good friend who rebuilds all of my customers racks (mainly Liberty ones as they are prone to leak) He isn't the cheapest around but he uses good quality parts and I can (and he does with warranty but not for OS) guaranty he does a great job. I can get you a quote if you like?
Please do....get a quote - happy to use your guy for any such work. Does he overhaul the pumps too? Maybe you could ask him for me.
Good point about the mounting holes I'll make sure we run a tap down each one to clear it out.
I noticed one has an earthing wire clamped to it - will have to relocate that as well.
Look forward to your further comments and keen to see any images of the kit and your set up insitu.
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Post by RSR 555 » Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:08 am

Consider it done Giles :) I will ask him when I get home about the pump.

The earth wire was relocated and all will be reveiled once I get home :) as long as Jules doesn't ask me to build a new exhaust system I should have a spare moment :D

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Post by rtcb65 » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:03 am

We have a 90% complete power steering set up here if you wont it .. Even have the longer tappet cover breather pipe.
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Post by RSR 555 » Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:19 am

rtcb65 wrote:We have a 90% complete power steering set up here if you wont it .. Even have the longer tappet cover breather pipe.
Oh cool.. I just used my old one and it fitted fine.. unless Subaru used the longer ones in their later models all the time??
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Post by TOONGA » Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:10 pm

RSR 555 wrote:Consider it done Giles :) I will ask him when I get home about the pump.

The earth wire was relocated and all will be reveiled once I get home :) as long as Jules doesn't ask me to build a new exhaust system I should have a spare moment :D

Cheers,
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Ha and you thought I wouldn't read this thread no exhaust this time just an EJ22 motor :)

looks like you will have fun with this project I know Paul did when he put his in

I got a phone call asking for the rest of the kit ..... the steering knuckle the brake booster hose and some other bits

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Post by RSR 555 » Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:51 pm

TOONGA wrote:Ha and you thought I wouldn't read this thread no exhaust this time just an EJ22 motor :)

looks like you will have fun with this project I know Paul did when he put his in

I got a phone call asking for the rest of the kit ..... the steering knuckle the brake booster hose and some other bits

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Another engine :???: what are you doing? eating them?? hahaha

Yes I remember that phone call.. "Jules, where the hell is the rest of this kit?? and why the F%$k doesn't the crank pulley go on :twisted:" but I'm glad it's all done now as it makes a huge difference when 4WDing :cool:
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Post by El_Freddo » Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:56 pm

You'll love the powersteering Giles! It transformed the feel of Sunnie the Brumby when I put it in. There's some pics in my thread about sunnie, that might give you some idea of how to go about it.

A bit of advice for the rack installation - there's a black plate that's usually spot welded to the bottom of the engine crossmember with non PS MY's. You can either drill out these welds and use some bolts to put it back in OR you can pull the input shaft of the PS unit out, slide the rack in then replace the input shaft once the rack is in place. This is how I did it on Sunnie. It would have been easier to drill out the welds I reckon.

Best of luck with sorting it all out. If you need any bits I've got a unit with parts out the back of the pero's joint.

Also, the earth wire will bolt to the bracket that supports the back of the powersteering pump...

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Post by 1111giles » Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:12 am

rtcb65 wrote:We have a 90% complete power steering set up here if you wont it .. Even have the longer tappet cover breather pipe.
Cheers - pls keep it on standy if needed. Waiting on RSR and Guyph to get back to me.:D
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Post by 1111giles » Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:18 am

El_Freddo wrote:You'll love the powersteering Giles! It transformed the feel of Sunnie the Brumby when I put it in. There's some pics in my thread about sunnie, that might give you some idea of how to go about it.

A bit of advice for the rack installation - there's a black plate that's usually spot welded to the bottom of the engine crossmember with non PS MY's. You can either drill out these welds and use some bolts to put it back in OR you can pull the input shaft of the PS unit out, slide the rack in then replace the input shaft once the rack is in place. This is how I did it on Sunnie. It would have been easier to drill out the welds I reckon.

Best of luck with sorting it all out. If you need any bits I've got a unit with parts out the back of the pero's joint.

Also, the earth wire will bolt to the bracket that supports the back of the powersteering pump...

Cheers

Bennie
Hey Bennie Thanks for the comments - I'm sure the PS will be a great help as I do get off road in Scooby and as said before Eleanor would have no chance with the std steering set up!
Thanks for the offer of the set up, as just posted I am hanging on for RSR and Guyph to get back to me. But pls keep the kit on stand by I hope to be in a position with this pretty soon.
I'll check out the sunny link for info as well
Thanks - appreciate your help & comments.:D
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