My Touring Wagon EJ25 build, Part 2

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:12 pm

If you don't drive it like Taza you'll be right with a turbo. But I'd be doing a full turbo conversion from a wreck or a half cut - after all, if you're going to do it you need to do it right

A turbo in the L series won't have you breaking things more often if you go about things the right way. Obviously the turbo engine will produce more power etc etc, so if everything from there back is in good condition it should be fine, it's not the first lifted L series that's had a turbo EJ...

Cheers

Bennie

taza · Post by **taza** » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:43 pm

El_Freddo, why bother upgrading to more power if you not going to drive fast and like an idiot. It's pointless.

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:18 pm

taza wrote:why bother upgrading to more power if you not going to drive fast and like an idiot. It's pointless.

Sorry mate, but it is unavoidable!

Seriously, more power comes with more responsibility not more stupidity. I worry about the upcoming generations! I'm sure you've seen the stupid signs they've got in Qld now?!

Bennie

Loyale 2.7 Turbo · Post by **Loyale 2.7 Turbo** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:19 am

El_Freddo wrote:... more power comes with more responsibility not more stupidity. ...

Those are Words of Wisdom!

Kind Regards.

d_generate · Post by **d_generate** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:33 pm

guyph_01 · Post by **guyph_01** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:59 pm

Stop spamming my thread... Go do it on Jules thread!!!>.....

Post by **TOONGA** » Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:54 pm

guyph_01 wrote:Stop spamming my thread... Go do it on Jules thread!!!>.....

PFFFFFFFFFTTTTTT go do it in Bennies thread

mine has enough spam to start a canning factory

TOONGA

guyph_01 · Post by **guyph_01** » Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:29 pm

Its been a while since i drove my baby, So today i decided to drive it to work. Everything was fine and she drove perfectly. After work, I got in the car turned the key and bulp bulp she would not fire. Cranked fine, put refused to fire. Lol.
I tell you, This car can sense when Paul is back in Perth..., to the day!!!! LOL

Anyway so after a quite cheat with the guru, We diagnosed that the fuel pump has failed. It pumps but no pressure. Hummmm, not too bad for a 89 EA82 EFI pump.
Will have to get a vl/vn in or maybe even a Walbro:)
Or anyone know of any better pumps, external ones??

Subydoug · Post by **Subydoug** » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:49 pm

Could use a bosch 070 or similar...I use one from here,

http://www.turbogemini.com/070%20EFI%20Pump.htm

Are you sure it isnt your FPR Stuck? Seems very odd that the pump would just stop.

It is funny though as I ended up stuck on the side of the freeway with a fuel pump fault on Sunday

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Regards

Doug

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:25 pm

Subydoug wrote:Are you sure it isnt your FPR Stuck? Seems very odd that the pump would just stop.

This could be true, but if Paul is in on the diagnosis I'm sure he's got it nailed. If not I'd be checking in to this - over pressurisation can give problems.

This Walbro seems to be a good deal, it surprises me as to how much these things cost. But then again I'm sure there are loads of them sold so prices are lower... Maybe.

Even then, VL turbo pumps on ebay aren't alot these days either! I really should pull my finger out and get one as a spare for those touring trips at those prices!

Cheers

Bennie

Post by **TOONGA** » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:28 pm

I would say the 89 "L" series fuel pump has given up due to old age

Bennie the ad says it is an in tank walbro not much good for an external application

GENUINE INTANK FUEL PUMP WALBRO GSS342

heres one not a walbro though

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/190709985570 ... 1423.l2649

TOONGA

Subydoug · Post by **Subydoug** » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:23 pm

My thoughs are that if the FPR is bypassing too much fuel you wont see any pressure after it at all......You could try sticking your ear up to the filler cap of your gas tank and listening for fuel re entering the tank for a quick check, or is the fuel return below the fuel line on that model?

Im sure youl figure it out

Regards

Doug

RSR 555 · Post by **RSR 555** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:30 am

Subydoug wrote:My thoughs are that if the FPR is bypassing too much fuel you wont see any pressure after it at all......You could try sticking your ear up to the filler cap of your gas tank and listening for fuel re entering the tank for a quick check, or is the fuel return below the fuel line on that model?

If the Fuel Pressure Regulator was stuck open then Guyph would have full fuel flow back to the tank.

When Guyph called me, he was stuck at work with very little tools to diagnose what the problem was, so I asked him to remove the return line off the engine and turn the key over.. the fuel trickled out of it.. not a full flow of an open FPR.

Just buy one of these Guyph...
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Fuel-Pump-su ... 27cefb1bd2
or
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HOLDEN-VN-CO ... 0883032909

RSR 555 · Post by **RSR 555** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:40 am

El_Freddo wrote:This could be true, but if Paul is in on the diagnosis I'm sure he's got it nailed. If not I'd be checking in to this - over pressurisation can give problems.

This Walbro seems to be a good deal, it surprises me as to how much these things cost. But then again I'm sure there are loads of them sold so prices are lower... Maybe.

Even then, VL turbo pumps on ebay aren't alot these days either! I really should pull my finger out and get one as a spare for those touring trips at those prices!

Thanks Bennie.. I'm pretty sure the pump has fail to pressure up the system, but it is hard to diagnose over the phone.

I have been told by a few people now, to buy the VN External pump, as they are cheaper than the VL ones and work better.. go figure??

There are lots of different models to the VL/VN external pumps but if people read this and need a pump for high performance, please use the Bosch 044 model.

Subydoug · Post by **Subydoug** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:41 am

RSR 555 wrote:If the Fuel Pressure Regulator was stuck open then Guyph would have full fuel flow back to the tank.

When Guyph called me, he was stuck at work with very little tools to diagnose what the problem was, so I asked him to remove the return line off the engine and turn the key over.. the fuel trickled out of it.. not a full flow of an open FPR.

Just buy one of these Guyph...
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Fuel-Pump-su ... 27cefb1bd2
or
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HOLDEN-VN-CO ... 0883032909

Yep, that makes sence. How many k's on the fuel pump then Guyph? maybe I should replace mine soon.

Regards

Doug

guyph_01 · Post by **guyph_01** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:52 pm

I'm not sure, Cars original k's has been lost!!! lol. but must be around 300K +

Subydoug · Post by **Subydoug** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:01 pm

guyph_01 wrote:I'm not sure, Cars original k's has been lost!!! lol. but must be around 300K +

Arrh perfect, Im good for at least another 100k then

.

Regards

Doug

RSR 555 · Post by **RSR 555** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:43 am

And the rest Guyph

Doug, your car would have a different type of pump, so wouldn't compare against Guyph's. If you look at going EFI than you'll need to change it.

Subydoug · Post by **Subydoug** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:24 am

mpfi vortex? 1986. I dont see no carby thingy on top

. My wagon is well past 300k.

If you need a pump to get you out of trouble until a new one arrives, you can borrow mine.

Regards

Doug

guyph_01 · Post by **guyph_01** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:06 am

Its all good, I bought a new pump from veale:) and i've got a whole EFI Parts car here that im wrecking with a spare EFI pump. Anyone doing a conversion that need an EFI tank??:)