List of 4x140 PCD Wheels ...

Post by **Bantum** » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:55 pm

And there this one :

Think tis a 'Subaru' 14x5" ...

( Just checked & think I already have this one, but in natural aluminium ... )

Cheers, Bantum ...

Post by **Bantum** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:38 am

Ok - here is the Second edition ...

Subaru 4x140mm PCD Wheel Reference Guide - V2

Updated & made pretty for you all ...

Note : The image above is only a teaser of just the first page, you will have to down load it to see the rest ...

Ciao, Bantum ...

henpecked · Post by **henpecked** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:53 am

Great Job

Pm sent

Post by **Bantum** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:49 am

Thanks henpecked,

Re PM : Yep it was my intent to add the offsets to as many of the wheels on the list as I can, however I ran out of time / info for this edition, so it will have to wait until the next ( 3rd ) edition ...

If anyone does know of an offset info on any of the wheels in the list, be sure to post them here & I will attempt to add them to the guide later ...

Keep finding 'em wheels too ! ...

Regards, Bantum ...

henpecked · Post by **henpecked** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:58 am

Bantum wrote:Thanks henpecked,

If anyone does know of an offset info on any of the wheels in the list, be sure to post them here & I will attempt to add them to the guide later ...

Regards, Bantum ...

I think that some of the aftermarket wheels actually have different offsets within the same design. The speedy desert rats come to mind - some seem to have MY/brumby offset, some have the L offset.

Also as per the option sheet posted on this forum, it appears that here in Oz the 2 official optional factory 13" wheels offered for the MY/Brumby , ie standard pressed steel, optional sunraysia style steel rims and the optional alloy Mags actually had slightly different offsets even thought they were for the same vehicle.

I've also seen a variance in offset with some of the different sets apparently identical aftermarket JDM wheels on the yahoo japan site .

Accordingly I thought listing the standard Pug/subaru offset for particular models may be helpful. It certainly took me some time to find the L and MY factory offset figures.

Silverbullet · Post by **Silverbullet** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:33 pm

Offset information would be a big bonus, if it is available. The 2 different 13" MY wheels that henpecked is talking about had an offset of +43 and +45 right? Just looking at wheels online this seems a very high number, most wheels not even available above +35 or so. Okay so stay with me here; Would it be right to say a +35 offset wheel on an MY would reduce the track width compared to a +45? bringing the wheels further inside the arches and possibly rubbing on brakes/stuff inside the wheel arch?

Point · Post by **Point** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:27 pm

other way around. A +35 sits 10mm further out than a +45.

Silverbullet · Post by **Silverbullet** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:33 pm

Point wrote:other way around. A +35 sits 10mm further out than a +45.

Ah thanks, so less = more in this case

henpecked · Post by **henpecked** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:19 pm

Silverbullet wrote:Offset information would be a big bonus, if it is available. The 2 different 13" MY wheels that henpecked is talking about had an offset of +43 and +45 right? Just looking at wheels online this seems a very high number, most wheels not even available above +35 or so. Okay so stay with me here; Would it be right to say a +35 offset wheel on an MY would reduce the track width compared to a +45? bringing the wheels further inside the arches and possibly rubbing on brakes/stuff inside the wheel arch?

I believe that the MY had 3 factory wheels in OZ
pressed steel at +42 and 4.5" wide
and the sunraysia and alloy sets both at +45 with 5" width

the two optional wider rims with greater positive offset essentially decreases the track (centre of tyres) by 6mm but only increases the track overall width ( outside of tyres) by only 6mm instead of the 12.5mm that a 0.5" increase in rim widths would have done if the offset had remained the same.

excessive hair splitting here - but if your having an argument in a pit inspection it may be usefull data.

Post by **Bantum** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:25 am

Thanks to Willy I can finally show the differences between all the different 13" Steel Wagon Wheel types to be found in OZ :

Sunrays : ( Also been called Sunnys or Sunraysias ) ( 13 x 5.5" +? )

Peco Star : ( 13 x 5" +? )

Subaru Gen 1 : ( EA 81 ) ( 13 x 5" +? )

Subaru Gen 2 : ( EA 82 ) ( 13 x 5" +? )

You'll note the slight differences between them all ... ( I'll come back to add more details here )

The spoke 'hole' in each case is different,
The spoke width varies,
Curve of spoke is also changed ...

And this helps to clarify the differences between Gen 1 & Gen 2 spoke shapes :

Note : & just to make things difficult - I know there's another one out there, just got to find it now ...

Cheers, Bantum ...

Edits : Will add more here also + will need to add Offset where I have a ? ...

April 2015 - revised links ( FB dicking around Again )

Post by **Bantum** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:13 am

& just to make sure you not confused yet, we also have these in 14" ...

Jacksons : ( 14 x 6" +? )

Speedy Desert Rats : ( 14 x 6" +? )

+ any others out there yet to be found ...

Note : When I mention the term 'Wagon Wheel' I'm referring to the number of spokes - usually 8 ...

Cheers, Bantum ...

Willy Fisterbottom · Post by **Willy Fisterbottom** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:17 am

Looking for one more 13x5.5 deep dish Sunraysia Like this so I have a complete set of 4, I found one today at a wreckers to make 3. Found another at another wreckers but it was 13x5 and different offset. The search continues.

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The wrecking yard where I got the matching deep dish got it off an 84 touring wagon.
I currently have 3 different types of 13" Sunraysias. If I post them on FB can you put them here Bantum?

Post by **Bantum** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:24 am

No worries Willy, will do + photo's of markings / sizes would be good too ...

P.S. - Can you also check the Offset Dimensions of each of them too ? As I will need to add that to my data acquisition set ...

Cheers, Bantum ...

Willy Fisterbottom · Post by **Willy Fisterbottom** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:30 am

Will do, just remembered the set on the Gen 1 Brumby is different again, so I have 5 different types.

Post by **Bantum** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:17 am

Found this weird one I've not seen before :

Found here : http://www.do-blog.jp/otaru-radiator/category/171

I'm not sure if it is 140 PCD, but it sure looks different ...

Cheers, Bantum ...

Post by **Bantum** » Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:01 pm

And the new boy on the block - Thanks to Phil ...

Got a name for 'em yet ? ( Add : On closer inspection - I note they are stamped Brumby Wheels )

Left link to old FB photo in case someone is still looking for it ...

Brumby Wheels : 14 x 6", 950kg load rating, 93.1mm centre bore, 5mm thick centre, +55 offset ...

Add : They come in Black & White & will sell for $ 120 Each + P&H ...

See Phil for more details ...

Cheers, Bantum ...

Edit : This is 4th time I've had to reload this image - FB keep Changing the location ...
Edit : Have now upload it on Photobucket, as FB can get Stuffed ...

Vortex75 · Post by **Vortex75** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:23 am

Nice. They look sweet

Vortex75 · Post by **Vortex75** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:25 am

I'm sure the weird looking one is a Vortex rim so it would be 140pcd

sublime · Post by **sublime** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:23 pm

Bantum wrote:Found this weird one I've not seen before :

Found here : http://www.do-blog.jp/otaru-radiator/category/171

I'm not sure if it is 140 PCD, but it sure looks different ...

Cheers, Bantum ...

Those rims are from a Subaru Justy, certainly not a PCD of 140:

Justy Brochure

Post by **TOONGA** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:37 pm

sublime wrote:Those rims are from a Subaru Justy, certainly not a PCD of 140:

Justy Brochure

which would mean that they would be 114x4 or 100x4 and probably 12 inch or maybe 13 inch

never can remember which it is.

TOONGA

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