Torsion vs Coilovers

xaymaca · Post by **xaymaca** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:17 pm

Who's had experience preferably with Torsion and Coilover setups for the rear of a Brumby/MY Wagon?

What is better for articulation, road driving, dirt roads, offroading etc?

If I was to put coilovers in, would I remove the Torsion bar?

Sorry if these questions are all straight forward, and I'm sure they would have been answered previously on the old board, but I'm just curious and I have a Suby modding bug

BaronVonChickenPants · Post by **BaronVonChickenPants** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:06 pm

If you have a look you'll find that replacing the torsion bar with something like independant rear suspension is a hell of a job not to mention a serious engineering feat, good luck with getting compliance, certification for it.

Your best bet is to build/buy and adaptor so that you can fit L series rear coilovers in place of standard strut, this will also need compliance but should be much easier as long as the adapter is built well.

In case you haven't guessed I've considered this option myself, I even have a set of L series rear coilovers for it, just never got to making the adaptor.

Jordan.

xaymaca · Post by **xaymaca** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:48 pm

Hmmm, that's what I was talking about. Using something like L-series coilovers as I have read that you just basically need a couple of pieces of steel bar and some time alone with the drill.

So basically, it's not economically viable to remove the Torsion bar completely and just replace it with the coilovers?

Is there something I'm missing that will not allow the coilovers to be used in place of the torsion bar?

BaronVonChickenPants · Post by **BaronVonChickenPants** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:07 pm

The trailing arm which has your wheel bearings and axle stubs and which your rear hubs bolt onto are part of the torsion bar.

If you remove the torsion bar you have no way of attaching the rear wheels.

If I get a chance I'll take some pics for you, unless someone has some already.

The adaptor is a little more complex than that, there used to be a link of a picture to an adaptor for air shocks which is basically the same adaptor.

You can buy them for about $50 a set, unless someone remembers these links you'll have to wait for the old data though.

Jordan.

xaymaca · Post by **xaymaca** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:13 pm

Well then, that sure showed me!

Are you saying you can buy adapters for $50? Hmmm, tempting. Don't you hate the border of which the effort of making something is almost forfeited by the price of getting pre-made items?

So would putting coilovers in still improve the car's suspension setup in conjunction with the Torsion bar?

BaronVonChickenPants · Post by **BaronVonChickenPants** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:26 pm

Don't worry, you're not the first and sure you won't be the last.

$50 is what I was told for the adapters, and yeah it does suck, the decision between be able to say you did it yourself or being able to pay a rediculously cheap price that negates all the time, materials and effort required to do it.

It could improve the handling or it could just make the whole rear end rediculously stiff.

Jordan.

sti-typeR · Post by **sti-typeR** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:43 am

My brumby has l-series coil's in rear. seems to handle alright, although is a little bit stiff for beach work. the rear end does seem to float and bounce a bit. but that is probably a result of my driving style (re flat to the boards)

Here's a pick of the adapter to fit coilovers at top. my brumby does have a 2" lift as well

BaronVonChickenPants · Post by **BaronVonChickenPants** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:47 am

Thats exactly what I meant, thanks for that, any chance of a side on picture?

Jordan.

stinky · Post by **stinky** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:13 am

I've got a pair of those adaptors on the wagon .. buy the wagon and they're yours :P

sti-typeR · Post by **sti-typeR** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:16 pm

as you requested

BaronVonChickenPants · Post by **BaronVonChickenPants** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:25 pm

Perfect, mate your a legend, thanks.

Jordan.