Rear Hand Brake on an Ea82

amk · Post by **amk** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:48 pm

Is it possible to have rear hand brake instead of front in an Ea82?.

tim_81coupe · Post by **tim_81coupe** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:32 am

Heard a rumour once that S13 Silvia rear calipers fit up to the RX rear discs, these do have provision for a handbrake.
I did however have a look at some of these once, off a turbo S13, and they were way too big to fit on the Subaru.

The only way I know of that works is to fit the Bratgeebah kit. This is overkill for what you want though...

BlackMale · Post by **BlackMale** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:08 am

It is possible, anything is possible really, however the amount of time, energy and most importantly cost its not worth the time/hassel.

waggaclint · Post by **waggaclint** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:17 pm

you could fit up a hydralic set up like they use on rally cars

stamp_licker · Post by **stamp_licker** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:11 pm

looking at the posibility of mounting one to the rear of the box like various other makes of 4wd use when modding brakes etc.

tim_81coupe · Post by **tim_81coupe** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 9:03 pm

That might be the shot, some Landcruisers had a drum halfway up the tailshaft..

stamp_licker · Post by **stamp_licker** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:00 pm

even simpler than the drum .its a disc that bolts in between the tailshaft at the centre bearing with a caliper activated by a cable.

MUDRAT · Post by **MUDRAT** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:20 pm

I'd be concerned as to it's vulnerability.

Suzukis and Series Land Rovers have a drum on the back of the transfer case.

Bratgeebah's brake kits would give you rear handbrake, I also seem to remember MechaWagon had one on his red RX Turbo?

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:49 pm

shoot me if i tell lies, but...seen Brumby with disc brake rear end, builder swears rear hand brake set up is out of a Vortex. Maybe they found the only rear hand braked disc braked Vortex in the world and swapped it into Brumby. Has Porsche discs machined down too !!

Chris_Rogers · Post by **Chris_Rogers** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:51 am

that setup is used on VW bugs.

there was a toyota caliper that fitted but I'm not sure which or how.

wagonist · Post by **wagonist** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:52 pm

Toyota Sprinters have the handbrake built into the rear caliper.
Though you're going to have fun finding these from all the Initial D wannabe's;)
XF Falcon's also have the same deal. Though the vented rear disc would be a bitch to fit.

Chris_Rogers · Post by **Chris_Rogers** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:31 pm

there was a fellow on USMB that used a tojo caliper on his but it was using XT6 bits to do it but they are a solid disc I needed vented and larger for this car. the Liberty item is right for the cables but the mounting points are 180 deg out. I'm going to knock up a plate that mounts the lever to it and then to the OEM bolts. thats the only way I can see to do it neatly.
one other thing I did notice was the adjuster - the top of the bolt needs to be knocked off.

ToyRX · Post by **ToyRX** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:59 am

My Rally car has the conversion done, quite simple really. Just disconect and remove all existing handbrake cables and handel etc.
remove outer half of rear calipers and replace with ones with hand brake attachment from a mid to late 80's Honda Accord, also grab the Honda cables and hand brake lever etc as it is designed to pull in the right direction.
To make sure you get the right one just take one of your Leone and compare the bolt holes.

Hope this helps

Chris_Rogers · Post by **Chris_Rogers** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:09 pm

Lots more detail please. are you saying that the honda item will bolt in the L series holes?

ToyRX · Post by **ToyRX** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:17 am

Yes - honda part is a bolt on to existing backing plate etc. Apparently the story goes that Honda and Subaru used the same brake component supplier in the 80's - hell could still be the case today, I dont know.

Anyway, the Honda version on the Accord had the handbrake at the rear which is much more sensable.

You will need to change over the lever and cables and one half (outer half from memory) of the caliper to Honda stuff, I think their may be a simple bracket to make also but not sure - I will take some photos later this week when i get my camera back and post them up for you.

Chris_Rogers · Post by **Chris_Rogers** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:05 pm

please do. so you used the honda handbrake lever as well?

ToyRX · Post by **ToyRX** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:27 am

Yep honda lever, subaru used a "push" type as the cables go forward, honda uses a "pull" type as the cables go backwards toward the rear wheels, in order to retain the subaru handbrake lever you would need to either have some funky long cables or do some major work on the subaru mechanism, if indeed you can even modify it to suit.
If you are worried about the looks you might be able to cobble the two together to retain the subaru handle part?? not sure.
I get my camera back tomorrow so will hopefully post up pics on Thursday.

Chris_Rogers · Post by **Chris_Rogers** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:19 pm

more interested in a bolt in lever. the cover doesnt worry me as I'll swap mine across. rear discs and the like have to be legacy due to teh ABS/TRC system I have.
pics would be good.

ToyRX · Post by **ToyRX** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:03 am

Heres some pics of the conversion - all parts from Honda Accord mid 80's

First the handbrake lever, this is mounted on a piece of RHS to get the allindment right for a rally car, not needed for road use but you may need to redrill mounting holes in tunnel.

Honda cables - with a bit of work these should hide under the carpet.

The Honda Caliper itself - has "Nissin 9CLP86" written on the top of the casting. It bolts up to the Subaru inner caliper and backing plate. You can see the handbrake return spring on top and the hydrolic (sp) lines on the RHS.

Top view

hope this helps

ToyRX · Post by **ToyRX** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:44 am

I was expecting someone to comment on how filthy the inside of the car was!!! Its amasing how much dirt/glass etc ends up inside the car when you crash them - lol
Still havent cleaned it up yet either.