straight up figure $$$

subarubrumby · Post by **subarubrumby** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:49 pm

whats a straight up figure $ i would look at to put a EJ20 turbo in my 89 brumby ? then non turbo ? cheers

spike · Post by **spike** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:56 pm

you can pay me 10 grand to do it =)
that straight enough for you?

its impossible to give you a straight up figure, if i did it and took 12 months finding the bits i wanted i could do it for under a grand but thats doing the work myself and scrounging for bits

Post by **Alex** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:58 pm

pay a place to do it, inexcess of $5k.

DIY $2k

non-turbo pay a place $2-4k

DIY - $500-$1000.

theres too many variables mate.

alex

subarubrumby · Post by **subarubrumby** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:29 pm

true its a bit hard for me to do it as i know nothing about it and dont want to fruck it up, only 17 lol anyone in QLD ipswich that would do it let me know very keen on getting it done.

spike · Post by **spike** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:56 pm

find out if its legal and ask around on the forum ifg anyone is willing to help??

some people are willing to help from the other side of the country be building the gearbox and wiring loom for the cost of the beer

FROG · Post by **FROG** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:14 pm

Listen to Alex those prices seem right to me ,use the search function , ask a lot of questions and there is no reason not to accomplish ,if you're interested enough

subarubrumby · Post by **subarubrumby** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:04 pm

i have a lot of beer

haha, would be really good if someone could help me out in doing it. just a few things , whats the best gear box to use ? does it go to the brumby tail shaft straight up or need to be shortened ?? what diff ?? will wrx hubs go on the brumby ??

subarubrumby · Post by **subarubrumby** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:05 pm

cheers for all your help so much, id send use a beer if i could

haha

subarubrumby · Post by **subarubrumby** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:06 pm

also alex is that with parts and engine ? 2K DIY ??

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:45 pm

you really need to think this out - you want EJ20 turbo (to impress mates or pull a chick or two) you gonna need the box that goes with it so it will cope, the turbo boxes are not dual range , have different CV shaft splines, long term project or got the readies to pay someone. I knew someone who EJ20G'd his Brumby and spent $20k ten years ago sorting al sorts of things out, was never engineered either. Ended up with just EJ20 in it and was happy with its driveabilty, legal travel times, just quick to the speed limit and pulled well up hills

Green_eyed_liberty · Post by **Green_eyed_liberty** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:01 pm

17 yrs old? your not allowed to change your engine while on your P's

subarubrumby · Post by **subarubrumby** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:52 pm

yeah hardluck, seriously man ive been driven a turboed silvia for the last 6 months and no problem, and my brumby will be a sleeper

so will the box to suit the ej20 match the tailshaft ??

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:14 pm

Not likely, difference in length is certain, splines maybe, these are something that get made up for 3 or 4 hundred bucks. Radiators are another thing to play with customise stuff, as to getting fans in, find skinny fans

Have a read of El Freddo write up and others on EJ conversions to get a better understanding of what goes on. I thought EJ had clearance issues of bonnet underside at standard height. Then there is engineering, insurance issues.....

subarubrumby · Post by **subarubrumby** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:14 am

oh shitttt, another thing i wont be running AWD just rear wheel ??? is that a problem ?

Post by **TOONGA** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:22 am

If you run an AWD box in RWD you need a kit which changes the box from AWD to RWD, and a diff thats going to take the punishment better than the standard brumby diff.

or you can do something like this

http://www.clubwrx.net/forums/showthrea ... adid=27532

or this is the kit ( one type anyway)

http://eng.kaps-transmissions.com/news- ... -1057.html

have a good think about all your options before you go making a drifter

as for the tailshaft you will need either a custom 2 piece or a custom single length.

TOONGA

subarubrumby · Post by **subarubrumby** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:03 am

so, would i be able to get the ej20, gearbox, diff from the one car ? and then get the custom made tailshaft to suit ? and the rear diff i need to get cvs that will suit the diff and the rear wheel thing aye ?

Morcs · Post by **Morcs** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:49 pm

My personal opinion would be buy one that has been already done.

Other then that i would do other things first eg
Get better brakes and handling sorted before getting more power.

Invest in at least rear disk brake system ultimate would be a crossbred kit

Use L series front control arms for camber and adjustable length stay arms from a falcon.

As a rear wheel drive only these are a big hand full with the wrx motor as they are very short and twitchy and want to swap ends very quickly also the Steering ratio is nowhere fast enough to catch again before looping it out.

You may have a turbocharged whatever but brumbies are light in the arse end silvas are fairly well balanced in comparison

Also Try the search function in this Forum it has been done many times before.

My opinion may not count for much to you but i would be using awd with a tarmac ratio centre diff split ratio in the realms of 20/80 or 10/90 not cheap but so much more controllable then rwd and not so harsh on the tranfer gears in the subaru gear box when using rwd.
http://www.mrtperformance.com.au/online ... gory_id=66

subarubrumby · Post by **subarubrumby** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:18 pm

yeah man i was going to upgrade brakes handling etc but i was just tryin to clarafy the hard stuff first before gettin stuck into, cheers for opinions, but i reallly want a ej20 rear wheel drive brumby

H-top · Post by **H-top** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:04 pm

My mate wants to get right into a ej20t conversion
on his libbo but I've convinced him to do brakes
and handling first. It's also the cheaper part.

Safety and legality first.

I'm sure there are plenty of forum
member local to u that will be willing
to offer help or advice.

Cheers,
Sam

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:08 pm

subarubrumby wrote:true its a bit hard for me to do it as i know nothing about it and dont want to fruck it up, only 17 lol anyone in QLD ipswich that would do it let me know very keen on getting it done.

Green_eyed_liberty wrote:17 yrs old? your not allowed to change your engine while on your P's

subarubrumby wrote:yeah hardluck, seriously man ive been driven a turboed silvia for the last 6 months and no problem, and my brumby will be a sleeper
so will the box to suit the ej20 match the tailshaft ??

In reference to the bold: As Green eyed liberty has said you're 17 and can't change your engine - no note of a turbo. Yes you may have been driving a silvia - wether this is legal or not is another issue. What I'm getting at is the silvia comes STOCK with a turbo, the brumby NEVER did in Australia, certainly not with a 2 litre turbo.

As for wanting to rear wheel drive it, in my opinion this is a waste of a potentially HSV/FPV smoking brumby. If I were you - and I remember when I was 18 with my '71 torana wishing it had a V8 or XU1 spec drivetrain - I'd wait till you've got some more driving experience under the belt before you go for the top line "off the shelf" WRX conversion. I say off the shelf as all parts are factory subaru before you start beefing up turbos for better performance. At the very least putt-putt around in the stock brumby before you start modifying it - this way you'll see the improvements in the performance and changes in your subaru that would hopefully make you appreciate it more and more to the point already know the limits of the braking system/handling in general before you upgrade to a force induced engine.

Hope you seriously consider the above including what other members have said - if you're dead keen on it try picking up a unit that's already been modified unless you want to go through the trials and heart aches of building your own. Most of all, keep it AWD as this may just look after you for the long run.

Cheers

Bennie